Product removal

Discussion in 'Detailing Bliss Lounge' started by Cooter, May 28, 2008.

  1. Cooter

    Cooter Guest

    Why is it sometimes products are just down right PITA to remove??

    Is it more like user error (thick application) or is it just in the nature of the product??

    What are some of the products you've used that have been the worst to remove?

    The first time I ever used Collinite IW, I thought i'd picked up a bottle of liq concrete!!
    I realized I put it on way to thick and contributed that to operator error =), but still havent used that agian!!


    Happy detailing!
    Heath
     
  2. JLs Detailing

    JLs Detailing DB Pro Supporter

    I really like Majestic Solutions cleaning products so I decided to try their paint sealant one time. Man that stuff was a bear to remove. I would just as soon be stabbed in the eye with a blunt object (so it would hurt more) than to have to use that stuff again.
     
  3. richy

    richy Guest

    Oh. wow..tell us how you really feel!! I know in my case, it's my heavy handed approach to applying product that gets me in trouble.
     
  4. MadOzodi

    MadOzodi Nuba Guru

    I think it's a combination of both Cooter. Take DP Wheel Glaze for instance. No matter what technique you use to apply it, it's a royal pain in the keister to remove. When Black Diamond shared the same opinion with me, I knew it wasn't user error.

    Gah, I was planning on using 845 IW today after work. I will definitely be trying to apply it as thinly as I can.
     
  5. cheeseenlo

    cheeseenlo Birth of a Detailer

    when using DP Wheel Glaze, before wiping off the residue i hit it with a spray wax to loosen it up a bit. personally i've been using menzerna's acrylic shield. i got it as a free gift and thats the only use i have for it.
     
  6. DJ_JonnyV

    DJ_JonnyV DB Forum Supporter

    Hey, hope the 845 treated you well. I used it for the first time about a month ago to put on my A6. Used my Flex 3401 and an Excel Detail red pad to get a nice thin, but full coverage, coat on it. Let it haze a little and wipe off. I actually found it a little easier to remove than 1z Glanz Wax. It doesn't feel that slick at first, but the next morning it was slicker than snot. My poor A6 has been having to sit outside too due to a garage product for the last month and it's holding up very well.
     
  7. MadOzodi

    MadOzodi Nuba Guru

    Well, I went outside to wipe off the 845 and it looks like it wasn't put on evenly. I applied by hand cuz I was too lazy to break out the extension cord and Flex DA.

    Tomorrow I'm going to try application with a red cross groove and Flex and wipe off panel by panel. Letting the haze sit there for an hour or so wasn't such a good idea after hand application.

    Wax and learn I guess...
     
  8. DJ_JonnyV

    DJ_JonnyV DB Forum Supporter

    yeah, an hour, not so good, i'd give it about 5-10 min. then wipe
     
  9. Jimmie

    Jimmie Birth of a Detailer

    No it's not you. It's nature of some products IMO. Klasse SG is a tough one to remove. Others: DP Wheel Glaze; 3M Hand Glaze.
     
  10. Denzil

    Denzil Guest

    Learning M105 can be a PITA!!!
     
  11. MadOzodi

    MadOzodi Nuba Guru

    That's easy...just complain about SIP being such a PITA that Asphalt Rocket takes a road trip to wherever you live so that he can beat you over the head with a gallon of M105. Learning through osmosis...

    :lol:

    Actually, I'd do it and ask him to make sure he brings his Snap-On torque wrench with him.
     
  12. Woob

    Woob Jedi Nuba

    Get some Hi Temp Prep Wash for product residue/polish. Makes removal easy!
     
  13. budman3

    budman3 Birth of a Detailer

    I think some may have to be user error but some others are just the nature of the product. When I have issues with a product I experiment and try to find a solution to it. If I can't find a solution, what good is that product to me?

    For instance, I picked up some Dupont Spray Wax. I sprayed it on and wiped off like OCW, PITA. Applied with an applicator and wiped off, PITA. Applied and removed with a Cobra edgeless bonnet, better, but PITA. Finally I dropped the bottle and it broke on the floor.

    Then there is XMT1. I tried all sorts of techniques, amounts, speeds, priming, pads, etc. and no luck. It didn;t remove anything and dusted badly. COuld it have been user error? Possibly, but I tried whatever I knew and couldn't get it to work. The same with Menzerna IP and a PC. Menzerna was made to use with a rotary and I personally find it to be a PITA (with exception to 106ff) by PC. So essentially it would be user error due to using the wrong machine.

    All of that being said, I got spoiled by using easy to use products. Products that are easy to apply and easy to remove. After getting used to these products it is very hard to use something that isn't as user friendly.
     

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