Discussion in 'Pre Wash, Wash, Decon, Claying, Engine, Wheels, an' started by Reflect, Feb 22, 2010.
Will do. I plan on working out all of the kinks beforehand.
I have some and like it for normal wheels. I want a wheel cleaner that I can leave on for a really long time if need be.
What about this Sonax wheel cleaner:
SoCal Shop Guy - SONAX Wheel Cleaner - pH Balanced For All Metals
Have not used it but have looked around there site as I was interested in some Sonax products and only place I could find them in the states.
I had a 22oz Gloss-it Wheel Gel in the shopping cart, and it was $14 to ship. No thanks.
That's full effect. I'm pretty sure this is the one that is really Extreme but they can't call it that to copyright infringement.
Amazon.com: Gloss-it Signature Wheel Gel Cleaner 22oz: Automotive
From Gloss-It but through there Amazon store, $21.63 shipped for a bottle.
Much better. Hmmm.... Alright I just ordered it. I'll still work with Sonax though. Can't wait for spring!
PM me about this....I was planning on using the Diablo this season. I am interested in the Sonax. I would certainly like to talk to you about this.
I'd be extremely interested if 5L of Sonax could be had for a reasonable price, after shipping.
The GI Wheel Gel is only worth it if it's purchased in 3-packs. Even then, I try to wait for the rare 20% off sales Rich offers a couple times a year.
I'm curious of the potential cleaning power of Diablo Gel but it seems nobody has posted a review on how it works on some hammered wheels. Personally, I really like it but I haven't been able to test it on really bad wheels so I cannot justify the price difference between Diablo and Sticky Gel, or even between the Premium Blue. Again, I have not had a chance to test it on any really hammered wheels.
Pirex can sell Scholl RIM-7 to the US but after shipping I believe it's $160 or so for 5 liters. We both agreed it's too expensive to be worth it but that wheel cleaner seems to be perfect. pH neutral, Gel formula, long dwell time, and seems to have excellent touch-less cleaning power.
I heard the RIM-7 is not that great.
Realistically, we can probably get 6 (yes 6) liters of Sonax Xtreme in cases of 16.9 fl oz bottles for around 100 shipped.
The problem is that overseas they get it much cheaper, like $40 plus shipping for 5 liters. So the import costs coupled with profit make it twice as expensive for us. The cases at that discount are still almost expensive as P21S, but I've heard it cleans a tad better, you get all those bottles for free with spray heads, 6 liters instead of 5, and Sonax indicates when the brake dust is breaking down by turning a different color. Also, I'm not a P21S gel veteran, but it seems that it takes a lot of gel to cover the wheel due to how thick it is. Spraying the Sonax in liquid form would seem to be a lot more "spray efficient."
6 liters for $100 shipped isn't too bad but it's not really much better than P21S Gel on pricing.
You're right on that one, P21S Gel is so clingy that I always end up using more than I would like. I like to start by spraying P21S from the top and let it naturally run down the rim and the upper barrel. It helps a little bit but not that much. I have seen people also spray some on directly and brush/spread it around with a clean dry Swissvax Wheel Brush and that seems to work also.
I think this is a problem that is going to have no single solution. I always keep several different wheel cleaners on my shelf; different cleaners for different tasks.
Although Sonax isn't a gel, it creates a goop when it cleans the wheel. It can sit for a long time since it's pH neutral, just like P21S. You may just have to re-wet it to activate it again if it dries.
6L doesn't sound half bad for that price. I would not complain if it is better than P21S, which sounds like it is
Maybe get a bunch of people together, pay for my plane ticket...I will pay him a visit in Norway...pick up a few and bring them back...get me some Scholl...yep...I will take one for the team...
I may add a bottle to a order later...thinking of picking up some stuff from him in coming months.
so then a case would consist of 12 bottles? thats whats needed if the bottles are 16.9 oz each to make 6 litres.
16.9 oz = 500mL (look at your 1Z bottles )
1000mL = 1L
Hmm, hopefully after all of our research we can find a reliable source for some Sonax RimCleaner.
2 cases, sorry for the confusion. 2 cases should be around $100 plus shipping (around there) if we can work a deal with their reps. A case is six bottles. And I don't have any 1z bottles. (don't shoot!) Whenever we work through all of the cleaner, those bottles will come in handy for dilutions.
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