New Flex PE14-2-150 Rotary Polisher

Discussion in 'Tools - Machine Polishers, Pressure Washers, Detai' started by Reflect, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. Greg Nichols

    Greg Nichols Birth of a Detailer

    I was at SEMA and saw the machine, I really liked it, start up is 600 rpms.

    I asked about the price......was told 325$ damn!

    With the new pads coming out from MEGS I think that will change the game more. I can't see, yet, this machine working 30% better than a standard PC with the new megs pads.

    I guess time will tell.

  2. Danny

    Danny Nuba Guru

    Will DI be carrying it Greg?
  3. blackjz

    blackjz Jedi Nuba

    how is it compared to festool?
  4. Greg Nichols

    Greg Nichols Birth of a Detailer

    I assume this machine will be sold by all the major detailing houses.

    I liked how it felt in my hands, and I have large hands and love the Makita. I don't like a bail or handle on my machines and this machine feels great without the handle.

  5. Stokdgs

    Stokdgs Detail Master

    I asked Greg of Detailed Image and he said they dont plan on picking this up at this time.

    Dan F
  6. Greg Nichols

    Greg Nichols Birth of a Detailer


    did he mean they aren't going to carry it now, or never carry it. It won't be back in the states for sale until early march according to Flex USA.

    I wonder if if Flex is going to do an exclusive only sale to say the Geek and Bliss? That would be a shame IMO.

  7. Danny

    Danny Nuba Guru

    If I purchase in the summer its going to be from Phil so I can get the 3M perfect it backing plate at the same time as well as some additional uber 5.5" pads. Maybe Phil will have some sort of package deal for it at that time.
  8. detailersdomain

    detailersdomain Administrator

    don't worry we will package this one up with some good stuff.
    I've been working on something for about 2 weeks now with some manufacturers.
  9. dsms

    dsms DB Forum Supporter

    Guys after using this machine on a few cars heres what I have to say about it, no bullshit...

    It is a quality machine top to bottom, build quality is definitely improved over the 3043, feels more solid. Ergonomically compared to the Makita, Metabo, DeWalt and little Flex I feel the PE 14-2 has the advantage, in part due to its evenly balanced weight but also because of the way the bale handle sits and your able to comfortably rest your hand on it with a firm grip, the rubberized top portion is great as well.

    For those of you who use a makita without the bale handle you know it can get a little warm up there because the spindle housing is metal so the rubberized head of the new Flex wont have that issue.

    Whats it like to use? Um, its just nice. I dont know what to say its just a pleasant machine to work with, especially on vertical panels, thats where its low weight and design make a difference.

    Noise wise I place it a tad louder than the makita but its not annoying, I have been using it at 2100rpm for several hours and it didnt bother me without any ear protection (I should wear it more often anyway)

    Like I said before the other Flex 3403 has a big noise problem because of its high pitch whine, this machine although decibel wise is probably the same or close to it... it does not whine and with that it doesnt get louder under load which is important.

    Cons: so far there arent many. I would say being limited to 2100rpm is a con for me, on occasion I will go to 2300 is paint is super hard but rarely do I need to be above 2000. The power cord in usual Flex fashion is a little short, I think another 5 feet would be beneficial but when you using extension cords it doesnt really matter. I also wish it was a 3 prong plug instead of a two but its a solid plug, some pulling and moving and it didnt disconnect.

    So the big question... is it WORTH the price?

    Simply put, yes it is. Heres why: the machine is the first hybrid between a lightweight and fully capable rotary. So far there really has not been a machine that is light and comfortable that can be used for serious defect removal over a long period of time. The metabo is comfortable but it gets hot and can shutdown, same goes for the 3403 Flex. So if you had either of those two rotaries as your ONE AND ONLY rotary, you may be in trouble if thermal shutdown happens in the middle of a job. Those rotaries I designate as secondary machines.

    Primary machines would be the DeWalt, Makita and larger Flex 603... these machines can be used for very long periods of time at high rpm without overheating or shutting down. If you have one of those you wont really need to worry about having multiple machines in case something happens, your pretty safe unless something goes estranged. People seem to bicker about the price but as I always say if your gonna be spending hundreds of hours behind a machine, get one thats quality and that works without fault.

    I am not saying everyone should run out and but the PE 14-2 because it will change the way they wheel a car, it will not, no machine will. Very much the same as a Bentley GT wont make you a better driver or a safer driver, it just gets you where you want to go in comfort, with style and effortlessly... thats very much the same way I feel about the PE 14-2. You do not need to have it but if you do its one of those things that can make a correction job a little less taxing on your body.

    If you already own a makita I am by no means saying you should sell it to buy the Flex but if you use the rotary a lot and are looking for something new and improved this machine is it. However if you DO NOT HAVE ANY ROTARIES AND NEED JUST ONE, then I absolutely would skip the Makita, Flex 603 and 3403, Metabo and DeWalt to buy the PE-14-2.... it is a machine that can give you the best of both worlds.

    If I had no rotaries and I were to buy just one right now, the PE 14-2 would be my choice.
  10. Reflect

    Reflect DB Forum Supporter

    Nice review and seems honest. I saw your video on DW and you had a pretty good analysis of the machine for the time you used it. So does this mean you will be picking up the Flex as well or sticking to the Makita? Even though the Dewalt is a workhorse, the one I use at work is a PITA.
  11. 911Fanatic

    911Fanatic DB Pro Supporter

    Now, who has the best package available. Hmmmm.....
  12. Dust2Glory

    Dust2Glory Nuba Guru

    WOW! So poetic, so fluent... I laugh, I cried, I fell in love with the flex! haha Nice review dave

    Or maybe you're really TOGWT!!!! haha
  13. GDAL

    GDAL Guest

    Damn ... those are fight words!
  14. dsms

    dsms DB Forum Supporter

    All Dave sweetheart... no copy and pasting here, I dont even think Wikipedia has a page up about the new Flex yet... ugh would have made that review so much easier to do!

  15. dsms

    dsms DB Forum Supporter

    ... thats what she said :gasp:
  16. cnut

    cnut Guest

    Seems like it will be a one-do-all buffer, if there is one.
  17. 911Fanatic

    911Fanatic DB Pro Supporter

    ....but I'll let you have her anyways! LOL Great review Dave. Any idea on the weight?
  18. GDAL

    GDAL Guest

    wouldn't be surprised that your previous post will be on wiki detail in a few hours ... LOL
  19. dsms

    dsms DB Forum Supporter

    IIRC the weight is 5.6lbs on this machine, the Makita weighs 6.8lbs


    My mama always said I'd be famous:shrug:
  20. 911Fanatic

    911Fanatic DB Pro Supporter

    5.6lbs makes it perfect for my aging body. Guess Richy will be getting one as well seeing he's actually older than me!

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