Menzerna for Concours...?? for regular detail

Nica · Mar 27, 2008

Dave KG said:

Regarding the issues with Menzerna working sometimes...

There are two main issues which I have experienced with Menzerna polishes on the rotary polisher, one is easy to fix and the other less so...

First of all - problems with the cold. Menzerna uses a waxed based lubricant, and in cold temperatures this can clot up which stops the polish from spreading evenly... Instead is spreads in patches. When this happens. make more passes at a slower speed to get the polish up to temperature and as the heat builds the polish will spread more evenly and once evenly spread, up the speed and work as normal. Keeping the polish warm in the garage will help, but if the panel is very cold and ambient temperatures are low, then you may still be faced with this problem.

The other issue is a harder one to know why it happens... the symptoms are the rotary hopping and sticking to the paint. It feels as if the pad is sticking, and this generates a lot of heat very quickly. This in turn dries the polish out and further magnifies the sticking and the heat just climbs. The polish dries and flashes white on the paint, the pad starts the squeal (dry buff) and you have no choice but to stop. This seems to happen in warm and humid conditions, and also seems to happen more often on softer paint types. What I think is happening is that on soft paints, the pad is caused to stick by the cutting abrasives and this increases the heat and generates the problem above. Certain conditions dont seem to help. No scientific explanation of what is going on alas. Solving it can either be done in my experience by adding an oily paintwork cleanser to up the lubricants in the polish (eg Meguiars Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner), or by switching to a different polish such as the Meguiars #80-series which have been consistently reliable for me.

We should remember that the Menzerna polishes were designed to be used in controlled conditions on specific paint types, and taking them far from these control conditions can cause issues... Its worth it though because in the majority of cases where Menzerna works faultlessly, it is a superb product to use.
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Great info Dave, thank you for sharing eace:

togwt · Mar 28, 2008

a) For most paint correction PO 106 FA / 106 FF and PO 85 D3.01 polishes (LC White / LC Blue foam pads 1000 RPM) should be all you need.

b) Use PO S34A Power Gloss (LC Purple wool pad 1500 – 1800 RPM) for paint correction / renovation.
It has a short work time slow cut and tends to ‘dust’

Alternatve polishes -

3M™ Perfect-It™ 3000 Extra Cut Rubbing Compound, 06060
3M™ Perfect-It™ 3000 Ultrafina™ SE (US) 06068 / Ultrafina SE (UK) 50383

3M50388 Ultrafina High Gloss Polishing Pad - Velcro Backed. 6-inch (150mm) - 3M50388 Ultrafina High Gloss Polishing Pad - Velcro Backed. 6" or 150mm. (Priced Carters Consumables

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