Klasse....still the best

Discussion in 'Car Detailing Product Discussion' started by FMINUS, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. FMINUS

    FMINUS DB Pro Supporter

    I seriously love this stuff, its old and expensive and I have been trying to find a replacement for it since day 1 (because of price) I still cant find a comparable product. Not even CG can match it :rollingpin:

    I LOVE IT!

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  2. eShine

    eShine Guest

    Funny you mention that because so many times I search for something better and yet Klasse delivers every time! Apply the sealant thin and you are good to go. Many of my customers also find themselves going back to Klasse. I often ask why they stopped using it to begin with and they answer is always the same, they get lost trying to find the perfect product and forgot how great Klasse was.
     
  3. sneek

    sneek Nuba Guru

    ORLY?

    I never really liked AIO. I thought it would be nice if it could get rid of swirls. SG was a really solid product. I am not sure why I stopped using it either. I just hate how some websites (not naming names) make such big claims for it. I expected it to reduce rock chips or something after reading some of those. Used to be over hyped, now it is underrated.
     
  4. klumzypinoy

    klumzypinoy Nuba Guru

    How good of a cleaner is Klasse AIO? I've never tried it :eek:.
     
  5. eShine

    eShine Guest

    I was fortunate enough to have used the old version of AIO. Although Klasse claims the formula has gone unchanged, right around the time VOC laws came about AIO changed color and many noticed it to be not as potent. Sneek, here is a hood I did using Klasse AIO by HAND! (Old AIO). The version now selling is a great paint cleaner and I still use it for a base on almost all LSP's but it won't correct like it used to. Yes, those are scratches in the secong pic!

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  6. FMINUS

    FMINUS DB Pro Supporter

    They claimed UNCHANGED? I remember ordering it and on the site it showed "new forumla" :bat:
     
  7. eShine

    eShine Guest

    Back when it first changed, they said it was the same formula. This was a while back. Maybe now they are saying it is new? Where did you see this?
     
  8. sneek

    sneek Nuba Guru

    dannngggggg, I don't even know if I was detailing when they had the old formula. I think it would make the top shelf...Up there is only M20, M21, M80, HGP and Gold Class.

    ;) now I just have to call up that guy that hooks me up with wax to see if he can get me some....

    :(:( I really dont think he would part with any if he had some though.
     
  9. eShine

    eShine Guest

    The old formula is long gone. I wish I had knew because I would have bought a few large sizes and held onto them. I had thought about seing if I can get Klasse to send us the older version. We currently do that with their VLR. Our version is oil based, not water based.
     
  10. FMINUS

    FMINUS DB Pro Supporter

    Maybe 4 months ago?
     
  11. Dontsleeponit

    Dontsleeponit Jedi Nuba

    eShine, those are very convincing pictures. I havent used the stuff either, but have read lots of good stuff. How is the product removing these light scratches if its just a cleaner and has no abrasives? Its not covering them up is it?

    Also, AIO leaves some protection behind correct?
     
  12. eShine

    eShine Guest

    Klasse contains fillers and a chemical polish. Chemical polishes eat away very thin layers of paint which is usually the edges of a scratch making them less noticeable. In the pics I posted the car has slight oxidization and the majority of scratches were likely in the oxidized paint which was removed by the chemicals. I would not count of using Klasse as a scratch removal product but when customers email us and ask for the best product for hand use to remove or improve swirls, we always recommend AIO or Optimum Poli-Seal.
     
  13. Dontsleeponit

    Dontsleeponit Jedi Nuba

    Cool, great explanation. :applause:

    In those pics you posted the oxidation is obvious, and it makes sens how the light scratches could be in very top oxidized CC layer that would be removed by the klasse. That combined with some filling should make for a great "by hand" product. Ive read people like to use it on wheels too.

    thanks man :chest:

    (these smilies on this forum are ridiculous lol :laughing:)
     
  14. supercharged

    supercharged DB Forum Supporter

    Werkstatt makes products, very close to Klasse. Prime Strong suppose to be like Polycharged Klasse. I know it's not cheap, but I think it's well worth it.
     
  15. Sparkie

    Sparkie Wax on..Wax off

    I don't think the new AIO is as good as the old stuff..It just don't clean like the old stuff.
    I been using DG #501 as my AIO, IMO it's the best out there now...
     
  16. P1et

    P1et Official DB Moderator

    Can anyone explain to me exactly what Klasse is? And what is compares to?
     
  17. sneek

    sneek Nuba Guru

    Klasse is just a brand. There are 2 Klasse paint products products, All In One and Sealant glaze. The all in one is like poli-seal(has more cleaners and abrasives) or Meguiar's #20. They usually leave pretty good protection behind. Sealant Glaze is a really really long lasting sealant. Both of them are a PITA if you apply them incorrectly.
     
  18. supercharged

    supercharged DB Forum Supporter

    I use and love Klasse AIO on windows, especially on windshield...Proper prep is required (cleaning, and claying).
     
  19. odgaard

    odgaard Birth of a Detailer

    So when do you guys use AIO? Just as a touch up before LSP when correction isn't necessary? Do u apply with a machine?
     
  20. michakaveli

    michakaveli Welcome to Detailing

    +1... I used to use the KAIO w/ my UDM and a white CCS. Tried this combo with my Makita, no turning back to the UDM for this step. KAIO works very well on any water spots on glass.
     

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