If you could have only 3 Menzerna products?

I have yet to meet a car that I could not take care of with:

-Power Gloss

-Power Finish

-PO85RD


I rarely use Power Gloss but I use Power Finish all the time for anything from a one step to a heavy polishing step and then follow it up with a pass of 85rd and it produces a stunning finish on any color and car.

 

Just ask. Man, do I have to explain everything?

 

SIP & 85rd. Power Gloss is terrible in comparison to other compounds. Looking forward to trying their new compound when it hits the US.

 

I wouldn't hold my breath!

 

After spending two days with Menzernas head instructor, Axel Schnarrenberger, I would say:

S500 Fast Gloss
PO203/PO203S
PO106FA

He was using P0203 on 80% of all his work and finished with PO106FA, but bare in mind he's mostly polishing on OEM plants. PO203S with a wool pad will cut very nice and PO106FA will finish of very nice with a light polishing pad.

Regarding the S500 Fast gloss: it's very similar to 3M (UK) Fast cut+, wich means very heavy on solvents and very abrasive, but it spreads great and finishes off good for being such a heavy compound.

My 2 cents.

 

i used 203S for the first time last weekend on my G220 (G110) on a white CCS

absolutely zero dusting, and finished down extremely well on solid black

its my go to polish now

id start with 203S, use it with light and heavy cutting pads, then decide if you need anything else

i cbb with the dusting issues of 106FF and 85RD now, ill just use 203S on even a black CCS to finish down finer

 

I was thinking of doing the same thing, thanks for the advice guys!

 

Is this product only going to be available outside of the US?

 

For some reason the products available here and there are different.
Power Gloss - ours cuts ok buts dusts like hell. Theirs has more oils to cut down on dusts and is more abrasive. Their Power Finish is our SIP. Dusts like crazy. We have 85RD, they have 85RE which I believe is an earlier version. We get 32oz and 16oz bottles. They have 32oz and 8oz. Your guess is as good as mine.

 

I thought their new compound was non-deminishing?

 

We have both SIP(RD3.02) and Power finish (PO203/PO203S) but I am mostly using PO203S. The old Power gloss (S34A) is the same product all over the world. We also got a updated version, called Power gloss POS100, but it's not as good as the new S500.

RE5 and RD is more or less the same product, only a little more powder(abrasives) in the RE5

Aluminum oxide us non dimishing, since it have a 9 on the MOHS scale. But I know what you are meaning. I acutaly forgot to ask :sorry: when I met this man:

 

Interesting... I know a ton of products actually use AluOx in them, so is it present to always give a certain amount of cut?

 

And to add, I really really like SIP over 203 for some reason. It seems to work a little better in the crap temps. Sip on white on the DA just seems to work better on light colors before I use an AIO for a 1.25 step

 

I received and have been using the UK versions of these products for some time now and can say without a doubt that the product that came in the bottle labeled "Power Finish" is not the same product we get. A call to Rich at Polished Bliss confirmed that the Power Finish I got from him was, in fact, the same as our SIP. It dusts like crazy whereas the Power Finish here dusts very little if at all. As for the Power Gloss, the version that came from the UK is S100 as you stated, but here we only have S34A although both are labeled Power Gloss. How is the newer S500 different than S100?

 

The answer is: Menzerna GMBH uses the same labels "Power finish" for three(3) products in Europe and probably all over the world, and those are:

PO85RD3.02 (wich is called Super Intensive Polish in North America)
PO203
PO203S

Thats the reason why you think that Power Finish is the same as SIP. Very confusing but they decided for this beacuse of the OEM market. You can buy a product with Intensiv polish labels in Europe, and thats the old Intensive polish, PO91L, like you have in North America.

If you want to be sure, turn the bottle and read on the white lable wich would have a product code, or else, read the fine print on the lower end of the bottle.

POS100 and S34A share both the same name - Power Gloss. S500 have much more solvents then POS100 and will therfore get a more powerful chemical reaction to the paint and then get much more cut then POS100. S500 will also finish out nicer and is, IMO, easier to use since it's more lubed.

 

Thanks porta! Over here, our SIP and Power Finish are labeled accordingly. No mistaking them. I haven't seen the S500 available anywhere but would love to get my hands on some. Which retailers over there have it? Thanks for all the clarifying. Damn manufacturers! LOL

 

Np, I had many questions when Menzerna visited my friends company. I have only seen
S500 in two webshops, one in Austria and one is Sweden(my friend).

 

S34A
PO203
106FA

I would have to do with out their LSP

 

Ken or Phil, any chance of getting some S500 Fast Gloss in?

 

I would have to say

Powergloss
Powerfinish
PO85RD

I use Powerfinish for 90% of my details and most of the time it finishes LSP ready even with a light cutting pad. It is a phenomenal product and a huge time saver, although 85RD makes the paint pop even more. Powerlock is also an awesome paint sealant.