When I said you are useless on your own; I was referring to the fact that you believe you have all the answers and are too self-righteous to consider the opinions of others. Did I not defend my own statement before I presented the testimony of others? I described a circumstance where I transitioned to the PC to achieve a flawless finish (jet black Victory motorcycle); I even provided a photograph. You completely disregarded my testimony in your response which is why I decided to present the opinions of other experts. Consequently, you entirely disregarded their testimony as well. I'm not using my recent detail as a pedestal or crutch. You are making the mistake of causation; recognizing an irrelevant relationship between two items. I would still like to know what I should have done to achieve a flawless finish on the mentioned motorcycle. Please explain how I should have worked the buffer to obtain a better result. Feel free to PM me from here on out so we can indulge ourselves without adversely impacting other forum members.