3M Ultrafina Vs. Menz. 85RD

The edge with Ultrafina is simply its ease of use. Even though the finish isn't quite what you can get with the 85RD, it is such a pleasure to work with that I find myself grabbing it over the Menz almost every time.

As for its finishing abilities, you can go from 105 to UF without any issues as long as you finish down the 105 correctly. I did a SS 88 930T yesterday that finished so great with 105 I almost didn't even need UF.

 

That's been my experience, too, Fluxy. UF will clean up after compounding just as well as 106, but finishes out just a bit better. 85RD, OTOH, has no game at all for cleaning up after compounding, but is a *great* gloss polish. Just general rules, of course. On softer paints, 85RD can do some clean up, but not much.

 

Just be careful with 106. Do your wipe downs.

 

Oh, yeah, very good point. 106 and 85rd really like to conceal stuff.

 

Glad to see you decided to quit lurking.

 

You just never know when I'll show up out of the wood work. I've been lurking on and off since the board started last summer, but I figured I was enough of a loud mouth on Autopia that I wouldn't bother you guys here.

 

Your posts are well thought out and very helpful. I doubt anyone would be bothered by you here.

:applause2:

 

Thanks, man, I'll try not to be *too* obnoxious.

 

Glad to see you here Super.

 

I agree with mindflux ,glad you have finally joined us here.

 

85RD because of it's extra gloss

106 and 85RD don't conceal anything as long as you work them properly

I always do a prepsol wipedown just to make sure and the result is perfection
Sometimes adding some parrafin oil to the pad guarantee's no holograms

Finally, what do people think of using 85RD with a red Lake country pad (after using 85RD with a blue pad and 106FF before that with a black)

 

In this thread, I used 085 and Ultrafina on the trunk. I had first polished with SIP and a green 5.5" green pad on the entire car.

I first did 085 with a blue ccs pad on approx half of the trunk. I backed the car out into the sun and besides for some slight holograms from the SIP side, I could not tell much of a difference. Gloss and apprearance in the sun and the shade where very close.

I then did the other part of the trunk with ultrafina and a clean blue CCS pad. Again in the sun and shade I could not tell a difference from 085 to UF.

Was this due to the results I had got with SIP? :shrug:

085 will get put away and kept for the occasion that UF does not work.

 

I'm curious what the veterans have to say about this. My understanding was that there was only a modicum of difference between the red and blue CCS pads. As such, I've purchased the different colors really for use as color coding; red for sealant X, blue for sealant Y. Anyone privy to the PPI specs on the two?

How much more jewelling and glossing can 85RD with a red pad accomplish over 85RD with a blue pad and could the human eye really discern the difference?

 

So can UF, trust me.... UF just conceals a little longer

Both polishes should only be used to remove light hologramming or when the paint is as close to perfect as possible. Expecting more from them is playing with fire, so to speak.

 

Dont want to get off topic, but I agree 100%. All of these polishes (106FF, 85rd, UF) should only be used when the paint is as close to LSP ready as possible.

 

Correct. UF definately fills

 

slight correction:

Correct. UF definately has the potenital to fill like a mother f.cker!

 

Matt, I have been trying to get in contact with you. Give me your email, I have some things that I would like to ask you.

 

i get better result with 85rd and i believe that it also removes minor swirls left from heavy polishing and it gives the best result... I dont have any preference on which to use but UF never gave me problem just the polish slings once in a while with high rpm...

 

Just an observation.
If both is comparable, PO85rd is around $40 while Ultrafina SE is $50. Also some online gives out 10-15% on Menz (haven't found Ultrafina online that gives out discount).
So I'll probably stick with Menz.