Started wetsanding my accord

Discussion in 'Show and Shine' started by Misha, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    well was time to do full detail again and i wanted to wetsand it to get it to mirror like condition, factory orange peel sucks. paint readings were in 300 so plenty of coating to work with. need to pick up 3000 grits, probably will make it easier to do get mirror like finish. here is results so far
    products i used

    2500 grit sand paper
    Meguiar's M105 with purple wool pad
    Menzerna 203 with orange pad
    Menzerna 85rd with black pad
    Black fire wetdiamond on blue pad
    Wolfgange fuzion wax

    process:
    prepped panels (only what im working on couse others have wax on them). wetsanded with 2500 grit, used M105 to get rid of sanding marks,(checked results, pretty satisfied but was not able to get all out couse some defects were too deep) polished with 203 and then with 85rd. paint cleansed and sealed with black fire wet diamond sealant.

    defects (etching, scratches)
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    before/after
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    did little test panel on rear quarter panel, huge difference, this is when i decided to do whole car
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    50/50
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    Did passenger fender, turned out ok, not as good as i wanted, most of orange peel is gone but not all of it. i wish my whole front end to get respray at some point,
    wet-sanded with 2500 grit, then 3000 grit, meguiar's M105 on purple wool pad, menzerna 203 and orange pad, menzerna 85 and black pad, sealed with 2 layers of jetseal and waxed with wolfgang fuzion wax, forgot to do measurement on clear, might have went through clear coat on body line but not sure if i did or not, i think car was resprayed couse where i think i did go through still reads in 90s, this is way too high to be primer and black pearl and i didnt get any paint transfer so i think its second layer of clear on the car and its reading in 300 so go figure

    when i did hood today i took measurements before and after, after wetsanding it 3 times (not 3 rubs back an d forth) and polishing with wool pad and 105, did touch ups and had to wet-sand 3 times on same area so i did a lot of sanding. after first wetsanding part i took off about 2 microns of clear, after 3 passes i took off about 8 microns of clear


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    before
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    50/50 with door. definitely a difference between two panels
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    friday i did my rear quarter panel, turned out pretty good. again not to point i initially wanted to but looks good anyway
    on this panel i took off close to 20 microns according to paint gauge so right now its around 300 somewhere
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    Today i did my roof in prep for CQuartz application

    wetsanded with 2000 and 3000 grit paper
    polished with M105 on wool pad, 203 on orange and 85rd on black, 3 IPA wipedowns, and applied CQuarts (looks like i screwed up and have to redo CQuarts application)
    here are pics

    condition of roof (acid rain etching, bird poo damage
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    wetsanded w ith 2000 grit
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    then 3000 grit
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    polished with 105
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    50/50, left side after 105 and 203, right side after 105 only
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    result after 2 stage wetsanding and 3 stage polish
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    Cquartz applied
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    removed per instructions
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  2. Legacy99

    Legacy99 Wax on..Wax off

    Wow a Honda with 300 mic. My G35 and new Altima only has about 120 mic average. How many mic did you have left after wet sanding and polishing?
     
  3. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    initial range was between 300-324, i did just one measurement after and it was 300 so hard to say how much i took off but next time ill take laser pointer and set it up so i can get measurement from same spot
     
  4. Deep Gloss Auto Salon

    Deep Gloss Auto Salon DB Pro Supporter

    Good times.... Gooood times....
     
  5. cnut

    cnut Guest

    What a turnaround!! Good work thus far on your accord. Your progress looks very promising so far.
     
  6. mrgolfrider

    mrgolfrider DB Forum Supporter

    That is going to look amazing! I wish I had the time to wet sand the wife's new Fusion, the OP on it is disgusting.
     
  7. supercharged

    supercharged DB Forum Supporter

    WOW! Fine work! Wet sanding scares the heck out of me...
     
  8. Cheap5.0

    Cheap5.0 Birth of a Detailer

    Im impressed! Nice work!
     
  9. billyblooshoes

    billyblooshoes DB Forum Supporter

    Looks great misha. I would definitely try and follow it up with 3000 or 4000 if you can get your hands on some, just to level everything out better.
     
  10. pektel

    pektel DB Forum Supporter

    NIce work!

    Don't close to any ridges /body lines. The clear tends to not be too thick on those areas. Just FYI :thumb:
     
  11. timpryor

    timpryor Birth of a Detailer

    me too, thats the one thing I let the pros do
     
  12. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    picked up 25 sheets of meguairs unigrit 3000 paper. never seen 4000grit



    yeah i know, i just want main panels to looks great, im not sure if im gona do pillars couse its very small area to do polishing specialy after sanding
     
  13. Legacy99

    Legacy99 Wax on..Wax off

    Thanks for the reply. I have a Highline II PTG and I can't understand how our measuements could be so far off. I've measured several OEM paints and never had a reading of 300 mics. or even close. Is my PTG defective?
     
  14. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    no yours is fine.

    we did TL week ago and paint was in 300-324 as well. wierd. ill have to measure my dads crv,
    i measured my moms 02 civic and it read in 60-70. usualy oem paint reads in 100-150 for me. so i have no idea whats up with this high readings. part of front fender on my car reads in 94. hood reads in 200 though but usualy hood gets less paint for some reason



    BTW, did you claibrate your paint gauge before you use it each time?
    i usually do but i do take one reading before calibrating to find out if its metal or aluminum panels(STIs have aluminum panels and looks like NSX as well) and reading little off if you dont calibrate it for right material
     
  15. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    updated first post
     
  16. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

  17. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    updated
     
  18. Petrucci_M3

    Petrucci_M3 Jedi Nuba

    Awesome, what a difference!

    I wish I could do this but the depth of my paint is no where near that healthy state you have. Have fun and more pictures please :)
     
  19. shazam

    shazam Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    nice clean job - i like the side by side comparison
     
  20. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    thanks guys, want to do my hood as well but want to put clear bra on it right after couse its chipped badly from all driving i do, but have to fix chips first and thats not gona be easy as well
     

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