Sealant or wax depending on colour and paint type

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by Carn, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. Carn

    Carn Welcome to Detailing

    I was thinking of creating a list of specific colours and paint types along with the associated LSP that usually offers the best results. Whilst I know it is all very subjective, and with the vast array of products available there is no set method or combo that will always work, I think it would help some of us alot to know what USUALLY (in your own experiences) works well. For someone coming into detailing the vast number of different opinions are literaly mind boggling and sometimes downright confusing. Maybe if this works out ok the admin's can make it a sticky for easy reference :paranoia:

    Would go something like this to be used as an example only (contributors can simply copy and paste and then add their recommendations)


    Flat (non-metallic) finishes

    Colour LSP recommendation

    Whites : Wax (Zymol Ti)

    Yellows : Sealant (Jetseal) with wax (Swissvax Concourso)

    Oranges : Sealant only (Duragloss)

    Greens :

    Greys :

    Reds :

    Blues :

    Blacks : glaze (Meguiars speed glaze) followed by wax (Pinnacle Sov)


    Metallic and pearlescent finishes

    Colour LSP recommendation

    Whites : Sealant only (Jetseal)

    Yellows :

    Oranges :

    Greens :

    Silvers :

    Greys :

    Reds :

    Blues :

    Blacks : Glaze (EZ Creme II) sealant (Jetseal) and wax (Zymol Royalle)


    What do you guys think, would you add your recommendations or is it far to hit and miss to be of any relevance or should us noobs continue to fumble our way around in the dark and learn the hard way :booboo:
     
  2. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    Not as comprehensive as your suggestion, but you could, if you wish, build upon this-

    Table VIII Recommended Products for various Paint Colours

    Paint Colour Suggested Product

    Red Zaino* Z2PRO™ Pinnacle Souverän
    or Poorboy's Natty's Paste Wax – Blue

    Yellow Zaino* Z2PRO™ or Rejex and Pinnacle Souverän

    Black (Clear Coat) Zaino *PC Fusion ™ and P21S Carnauba Paste Wax

    Black (Single Stage) Pinnacle Souverän or Poorboy's Natty's Paste Wax – Blue

    Silver Klasse* All-In-One and
    Menzera FMJ(Full Covalent (molecular) Jacket)

    White Zaino * Z2PRO™ Jeff Werkstatt, Klasse SG and/ or P21 Carnauba Paste Wax


    Protection From Suggested Product

    Winter (Snow/Ice/Salt) Rain

    Collinite #845 Liquid Insulator Wax, will last approximately 4-6 months

    Intense Heat (UV Radiation) Collinite #476s Super Doublecoat Auto Wax will last approximately 5-8 months
    Finish Kare * FK Synthesis 1000P Hi Temp Paste Wax (250oF)

    Strong Detergents / Chemicals Collinite #845 Liquid Insulator Wax or #476s Super Doublecoat Auto Wax or *Duragloss 105

    Acid Rain, IFO, etc *Duragloss 105 + a sacrificial Carnauba wax

    Note - * these products are synthetic polymers
     
  3. Carn

    Carn Welcome to Detailing

    Would it be to much of a generalisation to use the following as a rough guide :

    darker coloured cars with non-metallic finishes = wax LSP
    darker coloured cars with metallic finishes = sealant LSP
    lighter coloured cars with non-metallic finishes = wax LSP
    lighter coloured cars with metallic finishes = sealant LSP

    My reasoning of going with sealants as opposed to waxes on the metallic finishes is due to numerous mention of flake hazing by carnuba products on said metallic finishes. What I don't understand however is why some then apply a carnuba based wax ontop of the sealant on metallic cars.....

    I know as time goes by with trial and error you will find what works best, just trying to get something of an idea as to what works best for the various different paint shades and finishes....if that makes any sense at all !
     
  4. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    Leaving aside subjective terms- a Carnauba wax provides protection from bird excrement / acid rain better than a polymer
     

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