Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by yiyiyi204, Dec 18, 2008.
I just waxed my car with Souveran. How long should I wait to shoot some FK425 on top of it?
should be able to do it almost right away I believe.
I always do a QD wipedown after waxing. I usually wait anywhere from 30 minutes to 1 hour and then do the wipedown. But I have done it pretty much immediately too.
My question is, why? If one has used a very good wax, why immediately top it with a quick detailer?
I usually wait and let the wax cure before I use FK425 or another QD. I will usually finish up waxing in the evening and end up using QD and wiping the car down the next morning. Not sure if its necessary, just a habit.
I am with you, I really don't see the need for this. Would like to see other people's reasons why they do do this.
Better yet "why not"? I always go back before I deliver to a client for a final buff down so why not use a quality QD and amp the shine up while I do a final buff down. Not to mention if the wax sweated any you would be wiping that away with the QD as well.
I agree if the wax sweats but I still do not see any reason one would want to qd after waxing.
Why do you think it would be detrimental to the wax? If it's not detrimental then I think it only adds to the shine and helps the final buff down.
Never said it was detrimental, just do not see the point to it. I have tried it and never seen the benefit. Plus in my mind, I feel it might remove some of the wax, just my opinion and once again just seeing what other people's reasons behind doing this are.
I only do this with waxes that I know will leave a little hazing, or will sweat. The worst thing is when you add a nice layer of wax to your car in the morning, only to pull it out in the full sun and see leftovers. A QD will take care of that.
Personally, I use Last Touch.
Some QD's contain small amounts of alcohol as a cleaning agent. I would wait until any wax or sealant is fully cured and properly bonded to the paint before going over it with a QD. I like to wait as long as possible before doing my final QD wipedown but thats just me.
I would have to agree, I only use a QD (Field Glaze to be exact) when I'm using Zymol waxes. I do it as a final wipe down, to remove the sweat of the wax....but when I use Victoria, Swissvax ect..ect..my final wipe down is simply with a micro fiber towel.
Well in my eyes Finish Kare 425 leaves a higher gloss finish that most waxes that I've used. It also adds anti-static properties and ridiculous slickness as well.
I'm not sure how the Fk425 can be detrimental to the wax, since all it is is just an extra buff/wipedown? Can it really pull some wax off?
I suppose I'm being puristic or even silly. I certainly understand why someone would use a QD if the wax is hazy or streaky or if one anticipates these problems with a particular wax; but if I am not experiencing these problems, then I want to see the car as it is, that is to say, as it is when waxed, without any additional toppers. I am assuming here that one is using a premium carnauba wax and is looking for that specific look that only a carnauba wax can provide. Topping it with FK425 or some other QD for the purpose of adding gloss seems like an admission that Sovereign or Victoria Concours or whatever really isn't worth the extra money I paid for it (which, of course, may well be true).
However, having said that, let me immediately qualify myself by noting that I have no problems applying a glaze or pure polish before applying the wax. I suppose therefore I am contradicting myself. Logically, if my wax is as good as I hope and believe it is, then it shouldn't need the "help" of a glaze. Oh well, Mr. Spock I am not.
I am not criticizing anybody's practices. I could well change my mind in six months. But at this point in my early detailing life, when I am still experimenting with different waxes and sealants, I do not want to "corrupt" the appearance as given by the newly applied protectant. All bets are off, however, after the first wash.
QD is not necessary IMO. i QD if there is a bit of streak left on wax. and i don't use much. just as small spritz. if there is no streak, i don't QD after wax. some you'll here to QD after if using hard wax, or waxes that are hard to buff off. QD is used for aid to easily buff off wax. In my experience, I used Megs LT after i applied a thick layer of 3m wax and just applied little spritz to aid in buffing. (i learned not to use microfiber pad in applying paste wax coz it grabs a lot of wax.)
oh a question pops up in my mind.. doesn't QDs contain certain amount of light cleaners and alcohol? wouldn't this strip off freshly applied, not fully cured wax?????????
Just use Duragloss Aquawax.... and you'll for sure not hurt the wax, you can clean up whatever and it leaves MORE protection!
Interesting discussion... to me, I don't think it really matters either way but that's just me of course. I do understand both sides of the story though.
The only reason that I ever used FK-425 right after waxing is because of the static electicity that draws dust to the car from the Micro fiber towel right after waxing. I learned this here. I'm surprised that someone hasn't mentioned this by now. How ever If I am mistakin. I would have to agree with Nica and ASPHALT ROCKET Thats the only thing thats makes sense to me. I'm glad that this subject came up again...:shrug:
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