Questions about wax, sealant, glaze compatibility

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by bwanderson79, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. bwanderson79

    bwanderson79 Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    General questions about the wax over sealant technique.
    1. Do all sealants work well with all waxes?
    2. If not, which sealants do not seem to agree with others, or which waxes will affect sealants?
    3. What are some of your best combinations?
    4. Can Collinite 845 or 476s be an LSP on top of a sealant? They smell a lot like solvents.
    5. Do glazes affect or interfere with a sealant's bond with the paint?

    I have topped Menz Acrylic Jacket with 845 with success, but I don't know if all waxes are compatible with all sealants or how they will affect one another. Any information you all my have would be very helpful.
     
  2. Cleaning Fool

    Cleaning Fool Birth of a Detailer

    Heres my advice on your questions. Typically when people ask questions on a forum, they are best suited to limit them to 1-2 questions at a time, you will get a better response that way. To answer #4, both of those are labeled "wax" but are really sealants, so you would treat them like a sealant.
     
  3. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    I haved used collinite 845 over Wekstat AJT
     
  4. Tripleskate

    Tripleskate Virgin Detailer

    I figure I might as well ask here, since my question is somewhat related to this. Would applying a glaze (Danase WG in particular) over my LSP enhance gloss/looks, or would I just be wasting product?
    Sorry in advance if I'm derailing this thread.
    - Jake
     
  5. invaderzim

    invaderzim Jedi Nuba

    I like the DWG, it went much better when I used less of it. The often listed combo of DWG and UPGP is a top notch setup. It pushes the finish just that little bit farther and since many of us spend hundreds trying to get LSPs that go that little bit more it is a very inexpensive way to step it up.
    I like having different shines from time to time so I'll start out with UPGP,UPGP,DWG,UPGP and then go with that for a couple weeks then once I'm bored with that look I'll add a nuba to it.
     
  6. bwanderson79

    bwanderson79 Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    Good point. I will shorten my question to just one:

    Are there any sealants and/or waxes that simply do not go well with other products?

    I know that 911 has said that Bilt Hamber AB does not play well with others, but are there any others like that? I just don't want to make the mistake of putting a sealant/wax combo on a customer's car, only to find out that there were issues with clouding, dusting, etc a few weeks later. Thanks in advance for your input.
     
  7. Cleaning Fool

    Cleaning Fool Birth of a Detailer

    In most cases the only problem that occurs is the wax not bonding well with the sealant and it just doesn't hold up very long from a durabilty standpoint. Thats really the biggest issue. Dusting is always an issue, I don't care what you use on the car, carnuabas attract it more so than anything else. On peoples personal cars I fix, I never top a sealant with a wax, most sealants look good all by themselves, its just not necessary, and you are really just adding more work for yourself for very little difference in looks.
     
  8. bwanderson79

    bwanderson79 Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    Thanks for the info.

    I am curious, if it very durable, then why do it. Is it purely for looks, to add a bit of depth to the sealant?
     

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