Polymer Sealants - An Article

Discussion in 'Compounds, Polishes, Paint Cleaners, and Glazes' started by togwt, Nov 1, 2008.

  1. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    This article is being updated / revised and will be re-posted when completed
     
  2. Buddy

    Buddy Getting to know Detailing

    Thanks T, I always enjoy a good read. So much to learn and so little time...:shrug:
     
  3. detaildoc

    detaildoc Guest

    Awesome info, thanks!
     
  4. Cleaning Fool

    Cleaning Fool Birth of a Detailer

    Way to long for me, Im sure it has good info tho
     
  5. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    I more than appreciate these artcles are very technical in content and therefore will not appeal to every member of the forum.

    It is my intent to educate, based on five plus decades of experience; passing on to my readers not just a How it works, but also a “Why” it works, as well as an explanation of the scientific terminology and chemicals involved with detailing products. I try to write in a way that helps the reader to understand not only "How" to do something, but "Why" they are doing it, along with the technical, scientific facts along with any relevant chemical information, but if you’ve read any of my forum posts / threads you'll already understand just what I mean

    I've always believed in empowering my reader’s with facts based on knowledge, experience and scientific facts as opposed to marketing hype and letting them make their own logical decisions. Because I’m passionate about what I do and care about making sure detailing is a safe, fun and rewarding experience for the enthusiast and professional detailer

    No trees were harmed in the creation of these articles, but billions of electrons, photons, and electromagnetic waves were terribly inconvenienced!
     
  6. Hum-Benz

    Hum-Benz Wax on..Wax off

    Thank you! Your posts are always educating!
     
  7. supercharged

    supercharged DB Forum Supporter

    that's quite an article...
     
  8. Dom

    Dom Two Bucket System Washer

    Top man TOGWT :) Detailingwiki is good, just needs continual and gradual refinement and improvement; I have added in a few places but great when those with more knowledge can enhance the content much further. No such thing as too much knowledge...
     
  9. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    I wrote and posted all the aricles, starting from a blank sheet. Its good to know others are prepared to add to a unbiased detailing knowledge base.

    In reality forums need vendors, without them they would not exsist, but that comes with a price (pun intended) naturally they will cite their own products.

    Commercialism brings with it concerns of honesty and true representation. In other words, it’s difficult to know what is true when someone is motivated by income, i.e. directly targeted at product sales, more so than an unbiased opinion. I think that the more real facts you know the better.
     
  10. RamSus

    RamSus Jedi Nuba

    Togwt, thanks for your ongoing posts of these awesome articles. I've learnt a lot from them & I always find them very informative & extremely helpful.

    It would be wise if you could posts all your articles under one section, which either Nica (Carlos) or any admin/moderator can make a stickie; that way it will be easily accessible for reference.

    Once again, thanks for your contributions &, please, keep up the good work!
     
  11. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru


    I will check with DB Boss and see what he thinks of this idea

    I appreciate the kind words...
     
  12. dschia

    dschia Jedi Nuba

    After reading, I wonder how am I going to differentiate whether the product that i am using fall under what categories. For example, AG extra gloss protection also known as liquid hard wax, does it fall under Acrylic (polymer) sealants?
     
  13. Dream Machines

    Dream Machines Jedi Nuba

    Zaino is an amino functional resin system according to the big business guys at Mobileworks forum

    Some sealants are a glass based structure, including my own which is of course silica/sand converted to a liquified glass system

    These may still be considered polymers perhaps but certainly give far different results than Klasse or other traditional sealants

    You would certainly know more than me when it comes to chemistry

    There is one non silicone body shop safe spray on sealant and gloss enhancer that is made in Australia that is very durable and gives amazing results by machine or hand and can be sprayed on and will dry spot free and cure onto the clear forming a durable hard layer

    thanks for the info mate
     
  14. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    Thank you for those kind words. I try my best to pass on the experience / knowledge gined over the last fifty years ( 50 years, that can't be right, I'm not that old....OK I don't feel like I've been doing this for that long, guess I enjoy it so much) :)

    If you agree that these articles should be posted in there own section advise DB Boss > > >
     
  15. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    Interesting, I've come across aminofunctional silicone, they provide durability. As far as I know, Zaino doesn't contain silicones. But then I'm sure only Sal (and his brother' ;) ) know the exact formulation of Zaino products.

    I would add that Grumpy (Ketch) Mobileworks forum, is one of the most knowlegable people I've come across on various detailing boards ( an inspiration to all thinking detailer's) , I will also add that he works for a company that market their own products in competition with Zaino, Klasse, et al. So perhaps his comments aren't un-biased

    I would be interested to learn more (that's a true statement for me on any subject, but I digress) on sealants with a glass-based structure. They are probaly considered polymers, but then there are something like 30K different types of polymers.
     
  16. RamSus

    RamSus Jedi Nuba

    Will do & will let you know.
     
  17. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    Polymer:

    Definition [: from the Greek: πολυ, polu, many; and μέρος, meros; part, a chemical compound with many repeating structural unit, or monomers]

    Chemical definition [/B][: a polymer is a large molecule (macromolecule) composed of repeating structural units typically connected by covalent chemical bonds. While polymer in popular usage suggests plastic, the term actually refers to a large class of natural and synthetic materials with a variety of properties and purposes]

    Polymerization [/B][: the “uniting of two or more monomers to form a polymer.” In other words, polymerization involves the formation of chains of monomers to form a polymer. The nature and relative arrangement of the monomers that form the polymer influences the properties of the polymer]

    Silicone (Siloxane) oils - are polymers that include silicone together with carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and sometimes other chemical elements, which provide an excellent lubricant that when used as a carrier system in polishes and waxes that makes them easier to apply and remove When used in paints and other coatings it ensures an even flow through a spray nozzle ensuring an even product distribution. It not silicone that you need worry about, just the 'type' (what it’s formulated with) you need to be aware of.

    Silicone oils provide an excellent lubricant that when used as a carrier system in polishes and waxes that makes them easier to apply and remove When used in paints and other coatings it ensures an even flow through a spray nozzle ensuring an even product distribution.

    There are a very large number of polymer formulations (approximately 30,000) Sealants distinguish themselves by the type of chemically engineered polymer and the emulsions used in the product. The molecular structure of all polymers is based on a chain of carbon atoms, chemically - it is a molecule formed by the chemical union of five or more identical combining units called monomers.

    Descriptions such as Hydrophobic Polymer Technology™, synthetic polymer or a cross-linked polymer formulation are purely marketing terms. When it comes to product marketing and technical specifications, it is also important to realize that all companies must keep secure their proprietary information and agreements. Without this, no business would have the incentive to develop new products, expand their market, stay competitive, and ultimately - exist. Companies also rely on the fact that most that purchase their product have little or no knowledge of the chemicals used or there effects.

    A non-organic based wax formulated from polymers used to seal paint with a thin hard barrier. They are very durable and provide a very bright, but flat silvery shine. This type of product is a compromise as it does provide durability but lacks the properties of a Carnauba wax lacking both colour and depth, and because of a polymer's inherent Covalent (molecular) structure it cannot mimic the properties of a Carnauba wax. (See also Polymer Carnauba wax Differences)

    If not properly engineered, polymer sealants may crack, yellow or distort the optics of the paint surface. Most quality polymer based sealants contain amine (reactive alkoxy group) as well as a blend of resins and a small percentage of wax. Sealants distinguish themselves by the type of chemically engineered polymer that is used, and the ingredients formulated in the emulsion system suspending the polymers, as well as the other combination of ingredients in the product.

    The development of modern polymeric sealants coincided with the development of the polymer industry itself; sometime in the early ‘30’s.Common sealants include silicones, acrylics, urethanes, butyls and other polymeric types (reference - Wikipeidia on Sealants). Since the bonding or cross-linking of polymers increases the toughness and strength of the material, it makes sense that the cross-linking of polymers is an essential element of modern synthetic automobile sealants.

    Polymers used in sealants require a paint surface to form a molecular bond; they don't do well when asked to bond to metal to provide protection. A clear coat (paint) has porosity, so they bond very well and provide the intended protection. Since clear coat paint has porosity, a durable bond is formed and provides the intended protection.

    What is a polymer sealant? An over-simplified version; it comprises an open linked molecule, which forms a monocular bond with the paint; these open linked polymer molecules join together to create an elongated mesh like effect that reflects light efficiently due to their inherent flat surface. Because they are usually very transparent they transmit the surface colour faithfully, but they have very little depth resulting in what is perceived as a very bright, flat silver glow, polymers (Zaino, Klasse, Rejex, etc) Some paint sealants contain wax; the longevity of a paint sealant is due to the type of silicone (usually amino-functional silicone) that is used in its formulation. Polymers sealants require a paint to form a convalescent (molecular) bond (usually 12-24 hours); they will not bond directly to metal to provide protection

    The molecular structure of all polymers are based on a chain of carbon atoms, chemically it is a molecule formed by the chemical union of five or more identical combining units called monomers. A non-organic based wax formulated from polymers used to seal paint with a thin hard barrier. They are very durable and provide a very bright, but flat silvery shine.

    This type of product is a compromise as it does provide durability but lacks the properties of a Carnauba (Brasil) wax lacking both colour and depth, and because of a polymer's inherent Covalent (molecular) structure it cannot mimic the properties of a Carnauba wax.
    Most polymers contain a mineral or silicone oils that are use as a lubrication system, in a solvent based carrier system (these may also be in the form of an oil / water emulsion) and by the nature of this product they need to vaporise / dissipate and then its needs to cross-link (this is time dependant (unless a catalyst is added) and is quite separate from the drying process

    To my knowledge, all polymer sealants are based on an emulsion system containing silicone oils. Zaino Show Car Polish is the only polymer sealant that I'm aware of that is not based on the element silicone (its lubrication system is a polymer) it contains reactive resins that cross-link and provide long-term durability and can therefore be successfully layered (a new application of Zaino Show Car Polish does not remove previous applications). Zaino also has an ultra violet (UV) radiation protection added

    Acrylic (polymer) (Klasse) sealants: The molecular structure of all polymers are based on a chain of carbon atoms, chemically it is a molecule formed by the chemical union of five or more identical combining units called monomers. Polyacrylate - a group of polymers which could be referred to as plastics generally, they are noted for their transparency. Some acrylate monomers (the components of the polymers) used to form acrylate polymers may be acrylic acid, butyl acrylate, 2-ethylhexyl acrylate or methyl acrylate. With polyethylene-acrylics, there is no reaction and it is more like a lacquer that dries.

    These products contain polyethylene-acrylic acid that causes minor etching of the paint, which enables a modified ‘molecular’ bonding with the paint surface, which in turn results in durability versus just using a polyethylene based products. Zaino and Dura Gloss are two examples of acrylic polymers, which produce a ‘clear bright shine’. Klasse or Werkstatt (acrylic polymers) tend to produce a ‘liquid glow’. The acrylic paint solvent carrier system allows the dense molecule to spread and cross-link forming a hard protective surface.

    Fracture/evaporation temperatures - 265 – 285.oF (130 – 140.°C)
    Nanotechnology Coatings - [: extremely small technology at the nanometres scale, 10-9 nm (SI prefix)] Nanotechnology refers to the study, creation and application of molecular materials. Nanotechnology is usually applied to polymers that enable a very tight monocular bond with the undulating surface of most substrates (paint and metal surfaces) as they all have many micro fissures when viewed under high magnification. These micro fissures allow nanotechnology coatings to form a very secure bond with the surface, enabling durability. Nanotechnology coatings micro-particle size is smaller than that of water, resulting in a hydrophobic (water-resistant) surface

    Cross-linking – requires a porous surface to bond to, polymers initially adhere by surface tension and then after a period in which the solvents /oils in the carrier system vaporize (outgas) the polymers cross-link to form a covalent (molecular) bond to the surface. Chemical cross-linking tends to increase strength and toughness and consists of the formation of chemical bonds between chains, it’s the attachment of two chains of polymer molecules by bridges, composed of either an element, a group, or a compound, that join certain carbon atoms of the chains by primary chemical bonds.

    Cross-linking has the effect of changing a plastic from thermoplastic to thermosetting. Thus, it also increases strength, heat and electrical resistance, and especially resistance to solvents and other chemicals .A polymer normally requires a period of 24 hours if the ambient (outside) temperature is lower than 70.oF and 6 hours if above 70.oF, before applying any subsequent products.

    All (polymer based) sealants require initial cross-linking time before you can apply an additional coat with good results. The time a polymer takes to form a monocular bond and / or if additional layers can be applied depends on a number of factors, including the type and amount of solvent used, the type of polymers, and other ingredients used in the emulsion system suspending the polymers. If the polymers are not cured you will not achieve durability, it will smear and become difficult to use.

    Although the polymers formulated with Carnauba waxes are not generally of a type that cross-link, categorical statements that Carnauba waxes do not contain cross- inking polymers may not be without exception (See also Polymer Carnauba wax Differences)

    Time-line - it typically requires a period of between 12 -24 hours to cross-link, meaning that the product forms a covalent (molecular) bond with the surface it’s applied too, it becomes stable and inert so that its chemistry will not be effected by water or the application of other products The polymer layer comprises long molecules that lay on the top of the much smaller paint molecule. A covalent (molecular) bond is formed when polymers cross-link resulting in a solid, durable protective layer.

    Reflectivity – a polymer films reflectivity results in a very bright, flat silver glow to the paint film surface. Polymers are hydrophobic, water beading is caused by high surface tension; `water sheeting' is due to the Covalent (molecular) structure of polymers. Polymer sealants also have greater life expectancy and a much higher fracture/evaporation point than Carnauba wax, dependant upon the percentage and type of polymer in the formula

    With a sound understanding of the technique and a good process can get excellent results even with a mediocre product. A first quality product used without the proper surface preparation or application technique will never obtain a satisfactory result. With the proper methodology (surface preparation, using a quality product, along with the correct application technique) will ensure an excellent result.

    Paint cleaning - for a pristine paint film surface after the application of detailer’s clay or polishing, use a chemical paint cleaner (Zaino or Klasse All-In-One) to ensure the surface is clean and the sub-surface is free of any grease or other residue, this will ensure durability

    The presence of oil or water - inhibits the cross-linking process of a polymer or linking together of the chains (monomers or building blocks) to form a ‘structure’ by acting as a barrier and will compromise its strength, durability, cross-linking and adherence. Be sure that the surface of the vehicle can be left undisturbed from rain and water (this includes QD sprays as they comprise approx. 90% water) for 12-24 hours to enable cross-linking or the surface protection may be compromised.

    These components are heat and detergent resistant and anti-corrosive in that they resist the effects of acid rain, airborne pollution and bird excrement. It is applied as a liquid, and works its way into the microscopic gaps and valleys of the paint film surface via the carrier system (solvents).

    A Carnauba wax will bond to a cross-linked polymer; conversely if a polymer is applied on top of Carnauba wax the cross-linking / bonding may be compromised. Although I would not state categorically that a product that is formulated with oils will abort the cross linking or bonding process of a polymer just that the process may not be as complete, and its strength and durability maybe affected. (See also Cross-linking and Adherence)

    Multiple ‘layers’ - (3-4 is considered optimum) will achieve an even deeper, wetter-looking, ultra high gloss. When you’ve reached the level of enhancement you’re satisfied with you could add a Carnauba wax last step product (LSP) and use a quick detailer (QD) spray for normal maintenance care.

    Process - the presence of oil or water may inhibit the cross-linking process of a polymer or linking together of the chains (monomers or building blocks) to form a ‘structure’ by acting as a barrier and will compromise its strength, durability, drying time, and bonding. Polymers sealants require a porous surface to form a convalescent (molecular) bond to (usually 12-24 hours); they will not bond directly to metal to provide protection Ensure that the surface of the vehicle can be left undisturbed and free from rain and water (condensation, dew, etc) until the polymer has cross-linked or the surface protection may be compromised.

    To provide a ‘clean’ oil-free paint surface to enable proper cross-linking use a polish that does not leave behind oils, or use an Isopropyl alcohol / distilled water ‘wipe-down’ or a chemical type paint cleaner

    Avoid were possible any moisture as the active ingredients (i.e. what is left behind in the form of a film after application) will be diluted or washed out, negatively affecting its durability. That's why you should avoid rain, even morning dew with any curing sealant layers for at least 12-72 hours (product dependent). So, when you spray water on to a curing sealant, you are compromising its durability.

    Fracture/evaporation temperatures - Polymers 350.oF (176.°C) Acrylic resin 265 – 285.oF (130 – 140.°C)

    The term "melting point" when applied to polymers suggests not a solid-liquid phase transition but a transition from a crystalline or semi-crystalline phase to a solid amorphous phase. Melting temperature though abbreviated as simply Tm the property in question is more properly called the "crystalline melting temperature". Among synthetic polymers, crystalline melting is only discussed with regards to thermoplastics, as thermosetting polymers will decompose at high temperatures rather than melt.

    Polymer application- it cannot be emphasized enough ‘Apply products very sparingly’ Ease of product removal is inversely proportional (less product easier removal) to the amount used. Using an ultra soft Gold LC CCS primed pad will ensure a micro thin layer (0.5-1.0 oz should be sufficient for most vehicles)

    Carnauba wax over a Polymer sealant - some detailers find that a polymer sealant tends have a flat, silvered mirror look. Adding a Carnauba wax to the surface provides depth of shine, gloss, jetting (the so called ‘wet look’) and a warmth to the paint surfaces overall look. Bear in mind that how a paint surface ‘looks’ is very subjective

    Bonding - Carnauba wax will bond to a cross-linked polymer; conversely if a polymer is applied on top of Carnauba wax the cross-linking / bonding may be compromised. Although I would not state categorically that a product that is formulated with oils will abort the cross linking or bonding process of a polymer just that the process may not be as complete, and its strength and durability maybe affected. (See also Cross-linking and Adherence)

    Carnauba wax- when applied to a surface will not adhere properly on its own, solvents and miscible oils are added to enable it to spread evenly to the surface. Natural and synthetic waxes initially adhere by surface tension; the balance of the adherence process is that it works its way via the carrier system (solvent and / or oils) into the microscopic gaps and valleys of the paint film surface thereby creating a mechanical anchor, a wax does not form a covalent (molecular) bond to the surface.

    Polymer sealant - need a porous surface to bond to, they initially adhere by surface tension and then after a period in which the solvents /oils in the carrier system vaporize (outgas) the polymers cross-link to form a covalent (molecular) bond to the surface. This process usually requires 12-24 hours, which are time and temperature and / or humidity dependent.

    As can be seen from the above a polymer must form a molecular bond with the paint surface before the application of a Carnauba wax, otherwise the solvent carrier system that are formulated in the wax may compromise the bonding and durability of the polymer sealant (See also Polymer - Carnauba wax differences )

    Note - I can only comment on what the product manufacturer states his product contains, and first-hand knowledge of how it performs, otherwise I might be subject to litigation
    When it comes to product marketing and technical specifications, it is also important to realize that all companies must keep secure their proprietary information and agreements. Without this, no business would have the incentive to develop new products, expand their market, stay competitive, and ultimately - exist.


    New Polymer Coatings

    Anti-Fingerprint Coatings
    Achieving oil and water repellence on surfaces is easily obtained with the use of fluoroalkyl-modified silanes. While perfluoroalkyl-modified silanes exhibit high static and advancing water and oil contact angles, their low receding contact angles mean the oil and water will not readily slide over the treated surface. The resulting effect of these characteristics yields a surface that is both easy to clean and stays clean longer. Ultimately, modified perfluoropolyether silanes give high static and advancing water and oil contact angles as well as high receding contact angles resulting in a very low sliding angle.

    Scratch Resistance
    NANOBYK® Additives – a range of silica nano additives for higher scratch resistance of clear coats with an additive family covering systems from low to high polarity. The traditional way to improve scratch resistance by increasing hardness introduced undesired side effects such as brittleness and lower chemical resistance. A better option is to enhance the elasticity of the coating, and to prevent damages by an "immediate reflow effect". This is achieved by nano-silica particles that are uniformly distributed within the coating and work like a shock absorber. The result is a coating surface that remains nearly unharmed

    [Article revised / updated: 11/24/08]

    Information resource
    1.The Biology Project , Department of Biochemistry and Covalent (molecular) Biophysics
    2.The University of Arizona , Revised: January 28, 2003
    3.The Vinyl Institute Information
    4.The Royal Society of Chemistry; Cambridge, 1995 Silicon-Containing Polymers Jones, Richard, G.
    5.Glossary of Chemical Terms - Faculty of Chemical Technology
    6.The Basics of Silicon Chemistry - Dow Corning
    7.Wikipedia Dictionary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    8.Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition - Encyclopædia Britannica 30 Day FREE Trial
    9. SpecialChem's Coatings & Inks Formulation Bulletin Newsletter
    10. Automotive Detailing Inside & Out, A Knowledge Base for the Perfectionist Jon Miller


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  18. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    Interesting article on Glasurit Paint / Coatings

    Environmentally Friendly Kiyora Urban Concept Car : New Paint Evokes the Impression of Pure Water

    In Japanese, the word kiyora means clean and pure. When a carmaker chooses this name for its new concept car, the environmental technologies on board and the car's design have to deliver what the name promises. And Mazda is doing just that. At the Paris International Motor Show, the carmaker unveiled its concept of a new environmentally friendly compact car that is intended to appeal to young European city drivers. In meeting the huge challenge of translating the "pure water" theme into a visually prominent design, the Mazda Motor Europe team received support from Glasurit for colours.


    Designers from the two companies collaborated closely to produce a blue-green colour that created a sensation among both visitors from the automotive sector and the general public at the Kiyora's debut. After all, the finish does an ideal job of symbolizing the colour of water. What's more, the overall design of the car, with its blue-green finish, the transparent polycarbonate doors, the interior with its wave-shaped forms and the side members of the body that resemble flowing seaweed, produces an effect that Luciana Silvares, Senior Designer at Mazda Motor Europe, describes as follows: "The exterior finish stands for water. The lower you go, the darker the colour of the water becomes. With the Kiyora, we wanted to produce the impression of water, ice, seas and lakes, by showing transparency and depth."

    The man in charge of this project for Glasurit is Stefan Richter, Key Account Manager OEM Aftersales for automotive refinish products. During a visit to the Mazda Design Studio in Oberursel near Frankfurt, he became acquainted with the project - and tackled the big job. "It was fantastic how employees from our automotive OEM coatings and refinish coatings units collaborated with the designers from Mazda Motor Europe for several weeks. They kept on developing ideas, refining them and, in the end, came up with a really beautiful solution," said Richter, praising all aspects of the teamwork. "The cross-divisional and company-wide cooperation was super. The idea of developing an environmentally friendly urban car and using lots of new future technologies was reinforced by the car's aesthetic features. The finish expresses the transparency and depth of water and is in complete harmony with the exterior design," Richter said.

    Information: International Coatings Industry newsletter 04.12.08
     
  19. Dream Machines

    Dream Machines Jedi Nuba

    Hey TOWGT. I have been wanting to make a paint scratch resistance enhancer for a little while
    While Glare Zero ($140 a litre) creates an insane surface tension and "CLAIMS" to increase abrasion resistance once the Glare Advanced or Pro Polish sealant system has cured, I don't believe that using that product with any sealant will provide the results I am after

    Is this Nanobyk additive added when painting or can it be applied on a cured paint finish?
     
  20. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    It's a coating (paint) addative like CeramiClear
     

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