I just got information on Surf City's Beyond Steel Wheel Cleaner and Road Trip Grime Destroyer. pH Values BSWC- 12.9 RTGD- 12.3
Grime Destroyer is awesome. I don't remember by feelings with Beyond Steel. I did like the idea of using the same cleaner on both wheels and tires though, which BSWC is able to do.
I have used GD full strength, didn't like it. Too thick, and seemed like I was wasting product. I diluted it 1:1, and used it that way. Still very effective at that dilution, and easy to get coverage.
I used Beyond Steel a long time ago, then got Sticky Gel, then Custom Wheel Cleaner and Wheel Brightener and Diablo, and P21S Gel....