Menzerna Power Lock Smeary

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by BJsBuds, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. BJsBuds

    BJsBuds Virgin Detailer

    Decided to spend the weekend on my car, dreaded BMW Jet Black paint. After I stripped the old wax, clayed, and washed again, I pulled the car out in the sun. The whole car looked smeary. So I did one door with Menzerna Super Intensive Polish (SIP) & LC orange pad using my Flex, pulled it out in the sun and the one door looked great. Did half of the side of the car with SIP & orange pad, pulled it out again, it looked great. Proceeded to do the entire car with SIP & orange pad. I normally use a green pad, but I was trying to get out some small scratches, and just kept using the orange pad because the results were good.

    Next I applied Power Lock (PL) with a red pad and a PC. I applied it to one half of the car, wiped it off, and then did the other half of the car. When I pulled it out in the sun, there were smears everywhere. Almost as bad as when I began. Ugh.

    Do I have to strip the car and start over again? I wonder if I should have left it on longer, or if it is just my fincky Jet Black paint.

    I had planned to put another coat of PL on tomorrow then top it off with Pete's 53.
     
  2. Dannyk

    Dannyk Jedi Nuba

    Isopropyl/water wipedown?
     
  3. VW 91

    VW 91 Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    The smears may be towel marring. How long did you let the sealant haze for before wiping off?
     
  4. BJsBuds

    BJsBuds Virgin Detailer

    I'll try that in the morning first. Thanks!
     
  5. BJsBuds

    BJsBuds Virgin Detailer

    I think it was 15 minutes.
     
  6. VW 91

    VW 91 Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    I think that may be the problem. Most sealants should be buffed after at the minimum 30 min. I usually let most of my sealants haze over for around 45 min to an hour.
     
  7. BJsBuds

    BJsBuds Virgin Detailer

    So, do I do the wipedown to correct the problem, or do I try to buff it with a microfiber again, or do I strip and start over?
     
  8. Bunky

    Bunky DB Forum Supporter

    I would say as well. I have used it three times so far without any issues. It comes off fairly cleanly - no smearing.
     
  9. sikedsyko

    sikedsyko DB Forum Supporter

    I would IPA wipe and reapply. Give it atleast an hour to dry before buffing. Usually tackle wheels and tires during this break.
     
  10. Raven

    Raven Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    I've never had powerlock smear on me before. Either you have bonding issues, or wiping it off too early. Try another wipe down before removing it and starting again.
    You can leave powerlock on for ages and it's still easily removed.
     
  11. mrd0t

    mrd0t Obsessive Detailer

    How are you applying the PL? Maybe to thick?
     
  12. Raven

    Raven Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    Even thick it's one swipe removal.
     
  13. mrd0t

    mrd0t Obsessive Detailer

    But not if it hasn't cured, then your just smearing fresh product around.
     
  14. James_1982

    James_1982 Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    I had smears with power lock once as well, I traced it down to me applying too much product and then using too small of a buffing towel to remove it. I found it to be a fantastic sealant once I starting using the less is more approach and applying multiple coats after an hour of curing time.
     
  15. ampbmw

    ampbmw DB Forum Supporter

    My vote is that if he just used SIP on an orange pad, theres holograms that are what he's calling "smears"

    also, if he didn't do an IPA after polish, before PL, then I doubt the PL will cure correctly.
     
  16. ampbmw

    ampbmw DB Forum Supporter

    Also, I don't know if anyone else does this, but I use about 10 towels to to remove a coat of wax/ sealant...once all that residue gets into a towel, you're gonna get to a point where the towel is too impregnated with product to wipe a panel completely clean.
     
  17. bakchoi

    bakchoi Birth of a Detailer

    This is how Mike Phillips applies Menzerna Powerlock go to 21:40. [video=youtube;3xJH_MGgbLw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xJH_MGgbLw[/video]
     

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