out of 10.. i give him 7... because he is not very gentle with his MF while buffing out polish dust and he keeps it in his pocket where MF could absorb dirt and end up swirling the car again.. > I like to fold my MF and keep the edges away and place it on a clean container when done... He is right about using less polish and spray of h20 on the pad though but im not quite sure with his polishing movements..seemed rather odd.. i dont know..
I would probably give the guy an 8 or 8.5 It is just hard to rate people because everyone has their own special way of getting a show car shine. I usually keep my pad a lot flatter to the finish, but that is just my style. I also don't know if I would keep using that polish if it dusted that much. Looks like he got a pretty good shine out of it, it is kind of hard to tell, but I think it is pretty good. IIRC, he is on detailing world. I would probably give the guy the benefit of the doubt. That rotary looks interesting though, I have never seen a Mirka rotary.
The reason for this thread and my request for rating him is :I have become interested in learning to use a rotary,and wondered if this man is doing it right or not,would he be a good example of how it's done right. I bought myself a cheap NEIKO brand rotary off Ebay and will be practising on my other car which is perfect ,it's black and has all sorts of swirls and scratches ,I did some reading here and there but as you all know I need to practise . I started looking for some demo videos just to see how fast I should move and the man in this video looks to me like he is just trying to make it look easy ,I wonder if the polish he's using should dust that much ,or is it the speed of the rotary that causes the dust,etc. And thanks to TOGWT'few threads on tips on rotary usage,I know what steps to take as a novice. Thank you all for your replies, I would love to see more.
I give him a 5 at best, he is turning that buffer up on its edge way too much. I like to keep my pad as flat as possible. When you tilt it too much you create hot spots and swirling/holograms. He moves it a lot faster than I do also. Slow overlapping strokes in alternating directions. I do not get nearly as much dust either. JMHO
Well, i'm a novice in the rotary world, but i do know to keep whats attached to rotary off the vehicles surface. It would have been nice to see the surface area condition wise to understand why he used that method. I think problems are or may be created by using a minimal surface area of the pad, more so for a novice , than maybe a pro. Compared to me, that guy is like lightning.
I have no idea, but I have heard of many pro's doing it. I personally keep the pad as flat as possible, but I might be missing out on something. I think the guy knows what he is doing.
Here's a decent one of mine I'll make a better one next time I'd give him a 4. Don't ever tilt the pad like that The thing to remember is be smooth and flowing. don't hang onto it really strongly. YouTube - sonus sfx 2 with orange ccs pad YouTube - Final step of trim dream
Yeah I see it a lot. I can see why on some small edges or strips where only a small portion of the pad will make contact but on a flat surface I don't get it. I'm just learning to use a rotary and the thing I concentrate the most is keeping the pad flat because if I don't it starts to get grabby and skip around on me.
I agree with agentf1- no more than a 5 rating. I do tilt a wool pad but not the foam pad. ALso what you are see is the results of tilting the foam pad, its dust but also bits of the pad because it is being tilted. Very poor example of using a rotary.
I kind of though this myself, but I think I have seen the guys work before and it is usually pretty good. IIRC. I mean I have seen those PD videos and I think he moves his polisher aweful fast, but hey...it works for him, so I can't really complain about his technique. I tend to move pretty slow with a flat pad....
I dont move my rotary that fast either. I would hate to see the finish if he moved the rotary slow with a tilted foam pad.
Even for one who has never even held a rotary (me!) that doesn't look right at all. My thoughts are that too much compound/polish was used initially and the speed was too high causing it to flash and dust almost immediately. The dust was ground back into the surface and the pad was always on edge. A back and forth pattern only and done entirely too rapidly at that. Out in the sun I've no doubt that the holograms looked like the northern lights. I honestly think I could do a much better job than that, not impressed at all.
i agree RTexasF ... he only used 1 pass on a slow speed to spread the polish, I would do couple more pass and slowly and flat..
The only tiime I'd 'tilt'a pad- other than that keep it flat... 7. Edge (spin off) – a light sensitive approach is essential, using only the weight of the machine, on vertical panels just enough pressure to maintain contact with the surface (without applied pressure) tilt the contact edge of the pad a few degrees so that only the leading edge of the pad is in contact with the paint surface. A smaller pad surface contact area will increase friction heat so adjust machine speed accordingly As far as the edging goes; normally you aren't going to find excess marring and scratching over the edges. So if you machine in steps (and you definitely should be) save the edges for you last stage of polishing. This way you’re using a least aggressive product with a less aggressive pad. See also Rotary Usage Tips- http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/f12/rotary-usage-tips-1212.html
