hi, this an private expérience IMHO i detail my wheel , metal and black paint with this méthod : shamp clay DC1 DC2 3M imp hand 3M Rosa and i was surprise to see a great up at each stage the couple DC2 , IHG made a great job. more that one alone ... since they are "pure glaze" i don't try with my red moose , he smell more spirit. does any one make remarks like this ?