Edge Pad's Level of Cut, please help

Discussion in 'Compounds, Polishes, Paint Cleaners, and Glazes' started by J BELL, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. J BELL

    J BELL Nuba Guru

    Hey guys, i recently purchased the flex 3401 adapter to fit the edge system. I have gotten 4" pads and 6" pads...my question is one of being stubborn. I know Autogeek lists these pads in order of most aggressive to least aggressive as:

    Yellow
    Green
    Orange
    Blue
    White

    I dont have the yellow pads at all, i never have used them. I cant help but think that they feel exactly like the lake country foam, with the orange being pretty stiff, seems firmer than the green...and as many know the levels of cut are pretty much opposite of Lake Country's pads. Can anyone confirm or give their thoughts on how aggressive they feel these edge pads are in order? Thanks
     
  2. Buddy

    Buddy Getting to know Detailing

    The Yellow pads Have 40 (PPI) Pores per inch...Just find out how many PPI Your other pad has and match it to this pad...:thumb:

    Yellow 40 PPI
    Green 50 PPI
    Blue 70 PPI
    White 80 PPI
    I'm not sure about the black pad...That is a mean mother cutter...Wow
    I'm Not sure about the Orange Pad...I don't use them...They are way to hard.
    I'm not sure about the Red pad either...They have no cutting ability...They are made to apply LSP's

    Thats all I know...:thumb:
     
  3. supercharged

    supercharged DB Forum Supporter

    yep, this is about right. Most agressive to least aggressive.
    Yellow
    Green
    Orange
    White
    Blue
    Red

    By the way, JBell is you are interested I have Yellow Wave pad and Red wave pad up to trade. Also have a yellow flat pad, which has a little tear, I can throw it in if you will be getting these as well. I traded you all other pads anyway, and have no more use to these. I also have Edge 2000 PC adapter. Let me know.
     
  4. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    Edge 2000 Foam Pads since they’re double-sided, you get twice the usable surface area out of every pad, and their own Durofoam holds up to frequent use

    1.Yellow Cutting Pad – 40 PPI, this pad is aggressive and will cut through deep surface marks and swirls. The yellow pads work well on heavy oxidation and pitted finishes, and will remove wet sand scratches without causing burning.
    2.Green Medium Cutting Pad – 50 PPI, useful for light oxidation and moderate to severe swirls and imperfections, this pad will yield amazing results on older vehicles, and should be used on vehicles with moderate swirls and imperfections. Add a compound or pre-wax cleaner for a flawless finish.
    3.Orange Light Cutting Pad – highly versatile, as it can be used on cars with light to moderate swirls and imperfections, recommend you begin with this pad if you are unsure how deep swirls are, moving up to a Green Medium Cut Pad if necessary.
    4.Blue Polishing Pad – 70 PPI, great for regular use, it will leave surface areas scratch-free and smooth while still removing light swirls and imperfections. Use with wax and polish to apply a fine gloss.
    5.White Ultra fine Finishing Pad – 80 PPI, ultra smooth and ultra soft, the white pad leaves a bold, crystalline gloss on new and just-detailed vehicles. Apply waxes, sealants, and glazes with the white pad.

    As with all Edge pads the Edge Wave Pads do not require a backing plate. They attach to your polisher using the Edge 2000 Drive DA Adapter (E-210), which screws into your Porter Cable 7424 or other dual action polisher.


    An extract from one of a series of in-depth © detailing articles by TOGWT ™ ​
     
  5. Buddy

    Buddy Getting to know Detailing

    Hey supercharged you got your list mixed up.

    It's not White then Blue...It's blue then white.

    Black
    Yellow
    Green
    Orange
    blue
    White
    Red
     
  6. J BELL

    J BELL Nuba Guru

    Thanks guys for replying...so if i have it correct, let me compare to the cut of the lake country pads please and yall can let me know if i am on track :)

    Edge Green = LC Orange
    Edge Orange = LC Green
    Edge Blue = LC White
    Edge White = LC Blue

    haha quite different indeed!
     
  7. supercharged

    supercharged DB Forum Supporter

    maybe, dude, maybe...I don't know, it's beed a while since I was using Edge 2000 pads...
     
  8. Buddy

    Buddy Getting to know Detailing

    Did you match up the (PPI) Pores per inch with each pad from each manufacturer...If you did you're fine...If you didn't then start matching...:thumb:
     
  9. chefwong

    chefwong Birth of a Detailer

    it's not always PPI...though. Reticulated vis non reticulated, pad composition/material, etc.
     
  10. Buddy

    Buddy Getting to know Detailing

    With the LC Pads he was trying to match. I thought he was ok with PPI...So...Or not so...:thumb:
     
  11. Brent

    Brent Birth of a Detailer

    Really?

    I always thought it was:

    Edge Black = LC Yellow
    Edge Yellow = LC Orange
    Edge Green = LC White
    Edge Orange = LC Green
    Edge Blue = LC Black
    Edge White = LC Blue or Red.
     
  12. PJS

    PJS Birth of a Detailer

    If Edge stayed true to the same colouring format as serves the Cyclo pads - then the order of play is thus:
    Orange - firmest
    Yellow - medium
    Green - medium soft
    Blue - soft*
    White - softest

    * Blue not implemented by Cyclo on the foam side, but are/will be on the wool version

    I can't see any reason why Edge would stray from that since it would cause confusion with users having either progressed from the Cyclo to a rotary, or using both.
    It's easier for Edge not to confuse their users, and only have one inventory to worry about, rather than 2 different but same coloured foams to keep track of.
     
  13. J BELL

    J BELL Nuba Guru

    Haha we are all over the map here fellas....you can now see my confusion :)
     
  14. MWAUTOPRO

    MWAUTOPRO Jedi Nuba

    Specifications
    Typical Applications
    Swatches

    Black
    40 pores per inch (ppi)
    Heavy Cut. Very aggressive pad, works fast while reducing risk of burning. For heavily oxidized or pitted finishes, removes wet sand scratches.

    Yellow
    50 pores per inch (ppi)
    Medium Cut. Everyday cutting for average cars, light oxidation. Add compound for flawless finish on base coats. A must for every detail shop.

    Green
    60 pores per inch (ppi)
    Light Cut. Our most versatile pad: buff with light compound on clearcoats, rinse with water, apply polish or wax. Great for humid weather when waxes may cake.

    Blue
    70 pores per inch (ppi)
    Finish. Scratchless everyday polishing pad for any surface. Use with wax and polish. Removes swirl marks and applies a fine gloss.

    White
    80 pores per inch (ppi)
    Ultrafine Finish. Ultra-smooth surface, finer than any pad on the market. Creates a bold, crystalline, gloss. For new, exotic or expertly restored cars only.


    Off Of The 3M site
     
  15. J BELL

    J BELL Nuba Guru

    Thanks guys, any idea where the orange pad fits in?
     
  16. MWAUTOPRO

    MWAUTOPRO Jedi Nuba


    The orange is before yellow. I can tell you from my own experience it will not run all that smooth on a D/A as it is VERY dense.
     
  17. J BELL

    J BELL Nuba Guru

    As in more cut than green? I honestly felt that way...remind me of LC orange to a T
     
  18. MWAUTOPRO

    MWAUTOPRO Jedi Nuba

    More cut then green but not a good cut if you know what I mean. The green pads are great for light defect removal. If the green doesn't remove defects for me on the d/a then I step it up to the rotary just because it will be smoother , quicker, and consistent.
     
  19. J BELL

    J BELL Nuba Guru

    I had great luck with the 4" orange pad though...left a decent finish, a bit hazy but what else would i expect? I might need to pick up the yellow pad
     
  20. Dream Machines

    Dream Machines Jedi Nuba

    I find the Edge pads to be gritty in texture whereas LC CCS and the flat pads are stiff not gritty
    I use both and have no issues with either. though the new Kompressor's are top notch pads too
     

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