Applying LSP via Makita???

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by slanguage, May 18, 2009.

  1. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    I was wondering if anyone has ever applied LSP using a makita?

    I thought about trying it with 1Z Glanzwax with either a blue or red pad, applied around the vehicle at 600 rpm's (lowest setting on the makita).

    Does this sound about right? will it work out ok?

    I have applied this wax before using a PC at 1 and a black or blue LC pad.

    Thanks for your opinions/thoughts/tips on this.
     
  2. c32AMG-DTM

    c32AMG-DTM Birth of a Detailer

    I've applied liquid (and even softer paste) waxes via blue pad and PC as well, with good results. Logically, I don't see why you couldn't use a rotary instead, on the lowest speed setting and minimal pressure with a no-cut (i.e. red, gold, or blue) pad... :shrug: You're really just looking to get thin, even coverage before buffing off... right?
     
  3. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    yeah. no need to put on a thick layer with the wax I had in mind. rather do 1 or 2 thin coats.
     
  4. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    anyone else have some input?
     
  5. d00t

    d00t Welcome to Detailing

    :shrug: dont see why not. As long as you keep the speeds down to where you are producing the least amount of friction (heat) should be fairly effective.

    But here I am just reiterating that you ARE keeping it at low speeds :p
     
  6. dschia

    dschia Jedi Nuba

    Shouldn't be a problem. Apart from speed, you may want to take note of the pressure use..
     
  7. richy

    richy Guest

    If I understand you correctly, you say you have a pc as well, right? Why not take advantage of its random orbital nature to ensure even overlapping coverage. Don't get me wrong, I'm a rotary whore and use mine every chance I get..got an interesting way to brush my teeth...KIDDING..HAHA..seriously, I have a UDM and I only use it to put on LSP's and sometimes a glaze. Use each tool for its own strengths.
     
  8. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    No, I don't have a PC. Guess I shouldnt have sold it. I asked about roary application because I have a Makita.
     
  9. Bigpikle

    Bigpikle Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    Dodo make a version of Supernatural called Speedstick, formulated specifically to go on really nicely with a finishing pad and rotary :)

    I also used MarkV Glisten sealant, by rotary and finishing pad, as it likes some heat in it and the hotter it gets on application the more durable it is. I would have thought sealants like Z-2, DG etc would all go on nicely with a zero cut pad and potentially use even less product... Its just the fiddly areas that make a rotary harder to use for this purpose.
     
  10. krshultz

    krshultz Nuba Guru

    Hey Rog - I've got a question, if you don't mind. What are you trying to accomplish by machine application of an LSP? I see a lot of people mention this. Admittedly, most are talking about applying LSP with a PC (or similar), but it still leaves me scratching my head. Is it actually faster?

    I've never tried it. I'm imagining having to fiddle with the cord, and having the machine not be able to fit in really small areas, so I end up applying all of mine by hand. I'm clearly missing something that a lot of folks seem to like, so I'm curious.

    The heat angle that Richy mentioned above is an interesting one. I wonder if that might make application of RBOE a little easier for folks who have never done it before.
     
  11. d00t

    d00t Welcome to Detailing

    Karl, it is actually faster. If I apply JS109 by hand on a car, takes me about 10-15 minutes because I constantly have to reactivate the applicator with more JS109. But by my flex, the way is spreads has a little go a REALLY long way. I can have a "circle" of JS109 last an entire side of the car (that will take about 3-4 minutes to spread) or 5 or so "dots" on the applicator for every other panel.

    So it cuts time in half, and you know it's going on evenly :shrug:

    Edit: I'm actually in the same boat as you with cords/etc. I have only on occasion applied by flex, because, it ends up being just as tedious for the set up/tear down of the machine/pad and also, like you said, the small areas.
     
  12. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    Faster by far for sure. I applied 1z glanzwax with a PC and a black pad to an s2k this past sunday, and applying the wax that way went sooo much faster than by hand. Easy to get a good even thin coat. Buffing it off was a breeze also.

    Plus, if Im using the machine to polish the car, just set it off to the side, then change pads to apply the wax. I think it saves time and energy.

    This of course is just my :2cents: Not everyone will agree.
     
  13. krshultz

    krshultz Nuba Guru

    Thanks guys - I'll try it next time I'm using Jetseal.
     
  14. Bence

    Bence Two Bucket System Washer

    I'm applying LSPs (#21, 845, etc.) with rotary regularly.
     
  15. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    I use a PC to apply wax / sealant for two reasons, it applies a thin even (providing pressure used is consistent) overlapping layer as it mimics hand application(due to its inherent oscillating motion) and it’s easier and more efficient (to say nothing about so much less effort)

    Via a rotary with consistent rotation - not for me
     
  16. akimel

    akimel Birth of a Detailer

    FYI: Meguiar's M21 Synthetic Sealant, unlike its consumer-line cousin, NXT, is expressly formulated for rotary application. It has been tweaked to accommodate the higher temperatures generated by a rotary.
     

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