2008 Acura TL paint mystery

Discussion in 'Car Detailing Product Discussion' started by kenny1775, Aug 12, 2008.

  1. kenny1775

    kenny1775 Jedi Nuba

    I have a brand new black TL that's completely covered with tiny pitting marks (so small I thought it was just dust until I tried to get it off).

    The paint has been washed and clayed, and feels perfectly smooth to the touch (even using the sandwitch bag method). I even tried using Optimums' milder polish on the Makita which didn't completely remove them.

    The car has been stored outside for a few months with no protection, and my only guess is that this must be some kind of acid rain damage.

    Has anyone ever encountered this before on a new car?

    :shead:
     
  2. Asphalt Rocket

    Asphalt Rocket Nuba Guru

    If you could provide some pictures that would help us with what you are trying to explain.
     
  3. David Fermani

    David Fermani DB Certified Manufacturer

    Is it only on the horizontal panels? I'd be willing to bet that it's acid rain pitting. The best way to *attempt* to remove it is by sanding it out. I suggest showing it to the Body Shop at the dealership it was purchased at 1st so that it can be documented and probably re-cleared under warranty. Then, if they authorize a re-paint, you won't hurt anything by then trying it yourself. Make sure NOT TO MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT LEAVING YOUR CAR OUTSIDE AND NOT WASHING IT!!! Easy way for them to deny your claim.
     
  4. kenny1775

    kenny1775 Jedi Nuba

    I'd love to but the camera I have isn't sensitive enough to pick up the pitting (it's really, really small stuff).
     
  5. kenny1775

    kenny1775 Jedi Nuba

    I think you're right on the money with your solution suggestion.

    The irony of the situation is that this car hasn't been sold yet, and I work at the dealership :devil:

    My "official" detailer likes to clean the new arrivals with glue solvent and then just puts them outside in the parking lot :fs:
     
  6. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    :fs::fs::fs:
     
  7. DJ_JonnyV

    DJ_JonnyV DB Forum Supporter

    Yeeeeaaaaaahhhh, the "official" detailer needs to find a new line of work.
     
  8. Nica

    Nica Banned

    TL's are nice vehicles and should be taken care accordingly, "sounds" like it may be water etching...but I could be wrong here. Seems as though you (kenny1775) knows more about detailing then the "official detailer" :confused:

    Any who if you attempt to polish I would suggest making sure to take paint gauge readings before polishing, TL's have soft clear coat, well at least the ones I've polished in the past.

    So what's the plan with the "official detailer"? Hope you don't mind me asking, just curious that's all.
     
  9. kenny1775

    kenny1775 Jedi Nuba

    Well, I hate to confirm the stereotype about dealerships, but nobody else seems to see a problem with this car except for me. :doh:

    Granted I am really picky about wanting a perfect finish on every car we sell, but even if the guy who buys this car doesn't notice the problem I still can't let release the vehicle knowing it exists.

    I'm not prepared to try wetsanding on such a large area, but I'll keep an eye on the PTG and maybe try a heavier compound on the Makita to see if that works.

    If all else fails I guess I'll just have to find a way to convince the boss to respray the clear.

    Thanks for the support guys :worship2:
     
  10. Nica

    Nica Banned

    Sounds like your in a tight spot there kenny1775, I mean one hand you'd like to make sure the vehicle leaves the lot flawless but on the other hand it comes down to the all mighty $$. So if the boss says no, let it go, you probably don't have much saying.

    I know dealerships have a bad ramp, some deserve it...having said that it all comes down to money. I'm not trying to be mean, rude or disrespectful but I sometimes try to put my self at a dealerships position and business is business, so the last thing you want to worry about is spending a large amount of money having every vehicle detailed...but then again I ask my self why not? All that's required is to train the designated "detailers" and train them well and dealerships would be set. I mean it's really simply, wash with two bucket method, use good quality towels, wash mitts/sponges and use quality products...but then again everything comes at a price and as a business what keeps a business operating is the almighty $$

    Any who just me rambling on :bla2: but it's quite the vicious cycle isn't it :shrug:
     
  11. shiny

    shiny Jedi Nuba

    Yeah.... I've seen one dealership that hired someone 'special' for detailing their cars.
     
  12. kenny1775

    kenny1775 Jedi Nuba

    I hear you Carlos.... I hear you :itsok:

    What I'd like to do is find a good protectant that's really quick and easy to apply (like a spray) that's cost-effective (i.e. cheap, so the bosses will buy it), so I can convince the guy to put it on the new cars after he takes the plastic transportation film off with his solvents.
     
  13. Nica

    Nica Banned

    Well there are lots of good products and that are quite reasonable in price, for example you could use Duragloss or Collonite (sorry if I spelled it wrong)...mmm...what else is there..um...Chemical Guys (i'm not a big fan of Chemical Guys though but just throwing it out there).

    But to be honest Duragloss is quite cheap and it offers great protection and as far as looks goes, there is nothing wrong with it's looks :thumb:

    Well just my opinion.
     

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