1z Anti-Insekt Bug + Tar Remover or W99

Discussion in 'Car Detailing Product Discussion' started by agpatel, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Which of the two products would be best for tar removal and bug removal. I know the Anti-Insekt works well but I like the value of W99. Also what kind of dilution would be recommended for it.
     
  2. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    W99 dilution ratio for bug removal is 1:5.

    Would be more economical than the Insekt Remover, but that stuff works pretty good.

    Haven't tried W99 just for this purpose. I used it as a stripper in my FC once.
     
  3. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Mainly look at it for light tar removal as they seem to be around the bugs LOL.
     
  4. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    5:1 for the W99 might just work. If you buy it and dont like it, you can always sell or trade it :D
     
  5. Deep Gloss Auto Salon

    Deep Gloss Auto Salon DB Pro Supporter

    Buy the 10L jug and I will splitt it with you!
     
  6. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    well if you guys were gonna buy a 10L then I would go with the Blitz instead!
     
  7. Deep Gloss Auto Salon

    Deep Gloss Auto Salon DB Pro Supporter

    Whats the Blitz Dilution ratio?
     
  8. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    Motor Cleaning: 1:5 – 1:10
    Insect Cleaner: 1:5 – 1:10
    Machine Cleaning: 1:20 – 1:50
    Cleaning Stained Floors: 1:30 – 1:50

    Application: Cleans upholstery,
    imitation and finished leather, plastics, glass, tiles, ceramic, enamel, painted
    surfaces, concrete, wood, doors, lamps, canvas, seat covers, etc..
    Instructions: Normal cleaning dilute 1:20 to 1:30 with water. For heavy
    contamination add more Blitz accordingly. Shoe scuff traces at car doors or on
    floors treat at pure concentration (always test for colorfastness). Next, rinse
    with clear water. Suitable for use as a pre-wash in carwash.

    Usage:
    Area of application Possible dilution
    Household 1:30 to 1:50
    Dilute product to the desired concentration, depending on the degree of staining. Then use the product
    in wiping movements to clean stone tiles, parquet floors, marble, glass and other materials.
    Insect-remover 1:5 to 1:10
    Apply the product using a spray, allow to work in for a brief period, then remove insect residues with a
    soft sponge. We recommend rinsing again with clean water to prevent any wiping residues.
    Cleaning vehicles 1:20 to 1:100
    Apply the product in the appropriate dilution using a brush or sponge, then dissolve dirt with a wet
    sponge or wet/dry vacuum cleaner. Suitable for cleaning all vehicle surfaces.
    Cleaning engines 1:5 to 1:10
    Apply the product to the engine areas to be cleaned at the appropriate concentration using a spray,
    allow to work in for a brief period, then dry off using high-pressure equipment.
    Machines for cleaning parts 1:20 to 1:50
    Pre-dilute the product in the cleaning device, depending on the level of staining.
    Floor-cleaning machines
    Routine cleaning 1:100 to 1:200
    Thorough cleaning 1:8 to 1:10
    Pre-dilute the product and apply the solution with the machine, depending on the degree of staining. In
    the case of larger stains, allow the product to work in for 1-2 mins, then vacuum-clean.
    Important note: test for tolerance using a trial application before beginning cleaning.
     
  9. Deep Gloss Auto Salon

    Deep Gloss Auto Salon DB Pro Supporter


    Thanks a lot man!!
     
  10. supercharged

    supercharged DB Forum Supporter

    1Z Blitz work really well on bugs...I use a little stronger dillution ratio, as I like it to work faster...4:1 is what I use....
     
  11. Michael@nextzett

    Michael@nextzett DB Certified Manufacturer

    Earlier today I had my reply all typed out and then erased :( So I'm back...

    All the answers are correct. I'll add this...

    Anti-Insekt neutralizes the acidic portion of the bug which fuses the body to the surface and then has an additive that softens and loosens the exo skeleton causing it to come off a lot easier. These characterisitics make it work better than other cleaners at a lower concentration.

    As far as tar cleaning abilities, it's good at helping to remove bitumen which is sometimes referred to as tar. Bitumen is that quick coating they apply on streets when they want to give it a quick fix. It's thick like molasses and can spray on your car - especially on a hot day.

    For tar (the stony, hard stuff they use when doing an actual rebuilt of a street), you'll want to use a higher alkaline cleaner like W99.

    In summary, Anti Insekt great for bugs, sap and bitumen. W99 great for tar and pretty much any contamination that's oil-based.
     
  12. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Thanks Mike, I went ahead and got some Anti Insekt to try out. Mainly dealing with that sticky stuff, Bitumen, that gets on the lowers of the car. If I ever get tar, stony tar, then I can use something else I have. I just wanted to get away from using high solvent chems when cleaning Bitumen.
     
  13. Michael@nextzett

    Michael@nextzett DB Certified Manufacturer

    Sure thing. Forgot to mention, Anti-Insekt is easy on wax so it won't strip it. The higher in alkaline you go, the higher the chances you'll have to re-wax.
     
  14. moshinho

    moshinho Virgin Detailer

    And Acrysol for tar remover?
     
  15. Michael@nextzett

    Michael@nextzett DB Certified Manufacturer

    Acrysol is a prep solvent used in body shops to remove light oils such as silicone overspray and fingerprints just before the car goes into the paint booth. Not formulated to remove tar. Plus it's not available in North America.

    For heavier tar, stick with W99. Light tar/bitumen, Anti-Insekt.
     
  16. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Forgot about this thread.

    Little update for you guys:

    1z Anti-Insekt: Did well on the type of tar/coating stuff Michael was talking about. Let it sit for a min or so and was able to get it off the lower panels. Dont have any bugs on the car so cant really say about it but it took the tar right off so I assume it would be great on bugs in summer time.


    Have a bottle of W99 mixed up (15:1) and will see how that works when I wash my car this weekend.
     
  17. moshinho

    moshinho Virgin Detailer

    Here in Portugal, many people uses Acrysol to remove oils, tar and glue of the lettering with sucess.
    But it's not avaiable in North America.
    We use carstar for cleaning the oil of interior doors (door shuts) and around the wheels (i don't know the name, but i think it's arches .
    We don't use much w99, but many use to clean the engine.
    This products are used diluted.
    Forgive my English...:shead:
     
  18. Emile

    Emile Welcome to Detailing

    I used W99 today to try to remove some tar (fresh asphalt sealant) from a couple of garage doors and it wasn't as effective as I thought it would be. The directions and warnings indicate that it's a very powerful degreaser, but it's really more like a high-alkaline APC. The small specs of tar were taken care of just fine, but the large dots didn't seem to be affected by W99, even at around 3:1 ratio.

    Finally had to run to Walmart and pickup a bottle of Rain-X Bug & Tar Pre-Wash Gel. I was hoping for Tarminator but they were all out, and the bottle said the Rain-X was a solvent-based cleaner. I sprayed this stuff on and it broke the large tar down just like Tarminator...a lot of elbow grease with a cloth soaked with mineral spirits and they were finally gone. Of course, I did re-wash the doors with some Adam's Car Wash to neutralize any remaining cleaners, and did a final rinse with water.

    I think that a solvent-based cleaner would work much better for really stubborn tar than the W99 but I'm not sure which one is safer on your paint finish. It seems like both products would strip wax in a heart-beat.

    Can't wait to try the Anti-Insekt!!!
     
  19. Michael@nextzett

    Michael@nextzett DB Certified Manufacturer

    Emile, thanks for the fair assessment and review. Solvents will always outdo any detergents when it comes to removing tar, that's for sure. We used to have a product called Multi-Wash and we would use it to clean down the einszett sponsored Porsche GT3 cars after their races. Awesome product... however, it was a petrol solvent based product and an aerosol.

    We've moved away from the petrol products because of environmental regulations (and they're not so good for the environment anyway) and because they're aerosols. But primarily enviro reasons. And while Multi-Wash was great at removing tar very quickly, it would strip any wax coatings and left a film on the car.

    I actually still have my own stash of it but haven't used it in awhile simply because I prefer W99. Also want to point out that sometimes it's counterproductive to use the product at a higher concentration. I have learned that water mixed in the solution is required for the product to work more effectively.

    I'm not sure where you live where you can still buy solvent based degreasers but it's becoming more difficult. I suppose you should get it while you can! :)
     
  20. Emile

    Emile Welcome to Detailing

    Thanks for the useful post, Michael. I used to see Tarminator at that specific Walmart location all the time, as well as plenty of the Rain-X Bug & Tar Pre-Wash Gel, but there was no more Tarminator and only ONE Rain-X left so your post makes a lot of sense. Amazon also used to sell Tarminator and the Rain-X Tar Pre-Wash but no more...one can only get them through Amazon from different vendors, not from Amazon directly.

    I plan on trying W99 next time I encounter tar on a vehicle and I feel it may be very useful in this situation. I think it would be more effective because tar on vehicle is tar that gets kicked up and onto the vehicle because it didn't adhere well in the first place.

    This tar on the garage doors happened because it was sprayed onto the driveway on a windy day so it really got stuck onto the doors. And we HAD to use some cloths soaked in Mineral Spirits and tons of elbow grease, but it finally came out...the Rain-X product only loosened and weakened the tar.
     

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