Clear Coat Failure

Discussion in 'Show and Shine' started by G s2ki, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. G s2ki

    G s2ki Virgin Detailer

    Wenoticed clear coat failure on my dad's Acura TL back in November. He is downvisiting for a couple of weeks so we decided to try to do some repair on it. Iam by no stretch a pro, but the main focus was to improve the appearance andgive some level of protection to the base coat of paint. I was expecting tochip some clear coat off along the edge of the trunk lid. This would not be thecase, as you can see below the entire trunk lid was stripped of it's clearcoat. Stripping the clear coat took about an hour and a half. The entireprocess took about 4 hours.
    Thisis how the paint looked at the start of the project.
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    Anotherbefore image
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    My dadpeeling the damaged clear from the trunk
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    Clearcoat all gone and trunked masked off - ready for clear coat
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    Clearapplied and car is parked outside to cure.
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    After3 days sitting in the Alabama sun it was time to move on to the next step - wetsanding. Before wet sanding - you can see the lack of levelness in the paint
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    Wet sandingin process.
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    Finishedproduct - there is some small level of orange peel left, but it looks muchbetter than at the start.
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    Thank you for taking the time to read about this project -
     
  2. tfish1

    tfish1 Birth of a Detailer

    Sweet project man looks great what did you use to peel the paint off and what did you use to put the clear on just a can or actual spray gun
     
  3. Stokdgs

    Stokdgs Detail Master

    Beautiful job !!!
    It looks great !!!
    Dan F
     
  4. amercour

    amercour Birth of a Detailer

    Why wasn't the premature failure not covered by the paint warranty?
     
  5. 604_Snooze

    604_Snooze Obsessive Detailer

    Interesting project. I got to try it someday.
     
  6. rwisejr

    rwisejr DB Forum Supporter

    Cool looks nite and day better.
     
  7. GDAL

    GDAL Super Moderator

    IMO, Hondas have the highest rate of paint/clearcoat failure. Their paint is really thin from factory.

    Great work BTW ... where did you locate the tape line on the back of the trunk (where the license plate is located). If I'm not mistaken, there's a feature line there. Did you blend it there?
     
  8. G s2ki

    G s2ki Virgin Detailer

    We used a razor blade to catch the edge of the clear to chip it away.

    The car is an 05 and outside of the paint warranty. I have found online that this is a common issue with the Red TL's.

    We used rattle can for the paint - I do not have a paint booth, we had to use the garage (moved the cars out to protect from overspray)

    I scribed a line on the curve at the rear of the trunk to make the transition this is where we blended. If you know where it is, you can find it.
     
  9. GDAL

    GDAL Super Moderator

    Thanks for the fast reply. You did great!!
     
  10. vtec92civic

    vtec92civic Nuba Guru

    Wow thaat came out looking great man. So you used a rattle can to clear the trunk, sanded and polished to a brilliant shine . . . . . saved a lot of money there. I may need to try this on a spare hood or something tos ee how it turns out.

    How many coats of clear and what brand?
     
  11. G s2ki

    G s2ki Virgin Detailer

    We used Plasti coat brand paint - It was the only clear coat at the autoparts store. These were 8oz cans. 2 full cans were used. This was 4 coats of clear coat on the trunk. I wanted plenty of clear coat to sand down to smooth out and get a decent shine to the paint.
     
  12. UniqueAutoKraft

    UniqueAutoKraft Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    It would be interesting to put a gauge on it and see what sort of thickness is there.

    Through my experience with rattle cans I've done some pretty crazy stuff, including performing a clear blend using UPOL clear and Sikkens SRA solvent reducer.


    Just out of curiosity, what did you do to prep the base coat for being cleared? I'm not all too sure this is going to hold up too well if you didn't scuff the surface before hand.

    Also, what did you do about the edges of the panel? Did you open the trunk and clear it there as well?

    If it de-laminates again take the deck lid off, tear it completely down, and use a gray scotch bright to lightly scuff the entire surface. Wipe it down with alcohol and allow it to dry. You may want to have a can in each hand when you start out, keep it extremely wet to the point where you think it will run on the horizontal surfaces. Make your side to side coat, using about 60% overlap. Cover the entire surface of the trunk. Do the same crossing over, using an 80 percent overlap. Make sure you get the edges just wet enough to cover every time, and spray the back side of the deck lid on every coat. This is the only way it won't peel again.

    If you can, get some U-POL clear #1. It's UV resistant and gives a very nice finish.
     
  13. ACE2790

    ACE2790 Jedi Nuba

    Yah, amazing repair work for sure. I've seen shops that can't do that well haha.
     
  14. Deep Gloss Auto Salon

    Deep Gloss Auto Salon DB Pro Supporter

    Cool project and you got to spend some quality time with your Pops... Win - Win!
     
  15. fuerte

    fuerte Virgin Detailer

    Sorry to bump this. But what grit did you use to wet sand on this? do you think you can do half a body panel and will the clear still match?
     
  16. vtec92civic

    vtec92civic Nuba Guru

    That would depend on what typer of vehicle it is as some clear coats on cars now days are tinted. If it's a older car you should be good.
     
  17. Bmer89

    Bmer89 DB Forum Supporter

    I wonder if I can get away with doing this to my poor daily beater... Seems like a fun project!
     
  18. G s2ki

    G s2ki Virgin Detailer

    I used 2000 grit sandpaper to do the wetsanding.

    I am not sure a half a panel would look acceptable.
     

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