First time using M105 and M205... impressions.

Ive been having the urge to give 105 and 205 a run for the past few months, but I just have so much 1Z stuff stacked up its been tough to drop $50 for the two. My father in law bought a used Buick in black a few days ago, so he brought it over to get the defects out and I said I'd be glad to help if he sponsored me with some 105 and 205. After a thorough wash/clay, I got to work with the PC and a Meg. MF cutting pad. PC on 5, and I began working on the rear quarter panel first. To the touch, 105 was pretty smooth and I was pleasantly surprised to see just how well it was cutting through the 20 year old defects. Its cutting power was great to amazing, however, it was a bear to remove. I think I was possibly using too much product.

I then switched to 205 with a MF cutting pad, PC still on 5. I found the 205 to be a little disappointing, I was expecting the miracle 105 haze remover that I kept hearing everyone raving about, but I found it still left a little more ghosting than I was expecting. I gave it a fair shot on two side panels, then hung it up.

The combo I found to work the best for me was M105 with a MF pad, PC on 5, then cleaning the haze with 1Z PP (green can) on a Optimum MF cutting pad for a near perfect mirror finish. I used this combo throughout the rest of the car and got as close to perfection as I could get the 20 year old black Reatta's sides. However, the hood and deck lid were a different story, they were riddled with deep scratches and poop etchings, and short of wet sanding, there wasnt much hope, we just did the best we could.

I feel I need some more advice and tips on working with 105, but I would most certainly use it again on tougher jobs like this. I felt its cutting power was close to if not better than 1Z UPP. I played with different speeds, but I found 5 to give me the best cut as well as ease of removal. At higher speeds it left a haze that was nearly impossible to remove even with my best Monster Fluffies. But the 1Z PP cleaned that up with little effort so no big deal. At first I was thinking I'd keep the 205 and use it to make a 105/205 mix in a little bottle, to help clean up lighter cutting jobs a little easier. I do this often with 1Z UPP and PP and its a great mixture, but in the end I returned the 205 and will certainly hang on to the 105.

As a side note: I had a chance to use the new Optimum MF pads yesterday. I like them much better than the Meg. MF pads. The fibers feel much plusher, and they dont mat down and need constant sprucing up with the compressor like the Meg's do. They look very well built, and I'm looking forward to buying a bunch more.

 

M205 works fine at removing the haze from M105 but its a finishing polish and supposed to be used with a green, blue or black pad depending on the paint and correction you got with M105 not a Megs Microfiber cutting disc. Try it with one of those pads and you will see it finished down just fine.

 

So go right from 105 with a MF pad to 205 with a black pad? That will get rid of the haze? Or is there another polish in between?

 

205 with a finishing pad.

 

Depends on how much haze is left over from M105. I usually dont use M205 that much but when I do I use it, its with a Green or Blue Uber pad but you can use a black if you want to.

 

Thanks guys, very much appreciated. I knew I was just missing some small detail to make it all work. I'll give that a try on the next one and see how it goes.