I received 2 sample products from Permanon that I requested to do a review on. They sent me both the Auto product as well as the Platinum product. The Platinum is a new product that was just introduced in 2011. What is Permanon? Permanon is a one-of-a-kind technology product that is a spray on nano coating for non porous surfaces. Their technology has been licensed to G Techniq however for their C2 coating. That product has similarities to the Permanon Auto product. Currently there is no product similar to the Platinum. How does it work? To me, this is the most fascinating part about it. This technology actually came about as a result of a laboratory mishap which yielded a result that would ultimately become Permanon. Most surfaces in nature have a negative charge to them. These surfaces include the painted surface on your car whether it be metal, plastic, aluminum or carbon fibre. Glass and plastic are also negatively charged. In fact, if you apply a wax, sealant or nano glass coating to the surface such as Opti Coat or CQuartz, the surface retains its negative charge. Permanon contains silicon which has in nature a positive charge. You know what happens if you hold 2 magnets to each other with a negative side on one and a positive side on another: they attach themselves to each other very quickly. This is exactly what happens when you spray Permanon onto the surface of a non porous material. The protection in Permanon attaches itself to the surface. Not only that, but the true chemical beauty of it is that the surface has now changed polarity and has a positive charge. The significance of that is that dust, dirt and water are actually repelled by the surface of the material. Just like trying to bring 2 magnets together of the same polarity....ain't gonna happen!! What can it be applied to? As previously mentioned, non porous materials. What it will not work on is a much shorter list than what it will work on. Do not apply to cloth, unsealed leather, and rubber. Metal, plastic and glass are primary examples of what can be treated with Permanon. The metal can even be bare. I treated raw aluminum with Permanon Platinum and it sealed it and protected it against oxidization and finger prints. See HERE for the link to the job. You can pretty much apply Permanon to the entire outside of your vehicle. Paint, glass and trim. It will not hurt the tires or rubber if it is sprayed onto the surface, it just won't yield any protection for that surface. How can it be applied? Permanon, either Auto or Platinum, comes highly concentrated. In fact, you can use either a 5 or max 10% solution of Permanon to 90 to 95% of distilled water. Application can be via a pump sprayer of the garden type variety or even through a pressurized paint gun. You do not need to soak the surface. Just mist it on until you see the water on the surface beading and then you know it has bonded. The surface does not need to be previously wiped down with an alcohol wipe or equivalent. Make sure the surface is clean and dry...that's it! How do I remove it? OK, if the technology of this product didn't set it apart already, wait to you hear this: you can actually apply and remove this product without touching your surface! Once the Permanon has been applied, it can be immediately removed as the bonding process is instantaneous. All you are doing at this point is removing the distilled water that was used as a carrier for the Permanon. So, to remove that water without touching your paint, use a leaf blower or auto blower such as the Master Blaster. You don't want to leave the water on the paint, even if it is distilled, since you may get water spotting with it. Voila! You have just protected your surface without actually touching it. That method is my personal suggestion. Permanon suggests drying the surface with a micro fiber drying towel. Fair enough, but we all know that any time you touch the surface, you risk instilling marring of the paint. My method prevents that. What kind of durability can I expect? Permanon is not removed by normal cleaning products. You can remove it with an alkaline PH of 12.5 or greater which is extremely high on the scale. Most acids will not remove it although hydrofluoric acid can as well. These 2 examples are not something to which you would ever subject a painted surface! Otherwise, it will stay active for approx 6 months on a daily driver. A "Garage Queen" could theoretically stay protected for years. What about maintenance? Permanon will not adhere to itself. (Remember the magnets of the same polarity?) However, if there is an area where the Permanon has started to fade from, simply go over that area with new Permanon and it will bond to the low spots or the spots where it is no longer active. If in doubt, just go around the whole car again. Permanon's Strengths: I've already mentioned the repelling of dirt, dust and water. One of the key attributes to Permanon as well is its ability to withstand heat. Where this comes into play specifically with autos is with wheels and the resulting brake dust. When the brake dust settles on the wheels, it is at 265°F. This product can withstand heat up to 572°F!! Therefore, the brake dust cannot burn itself onto the surface of the Permanon-treated wheel like it could with a wax or sealant treated surface. Cleaning of brake dust just got easy. Why different products? The original product developed for vehicles was the Permanon Auto. In 2011, Permanon introduced Platinum. It is the same type of spray on silicon based product, yet it has a higher silicon content than the Auto does. This makes it a better product with better bonding characteristics. Let me see it in action! Here is a video review I shot on my iphone (one handed all by myself; sorry about the quality) that demonstrates the water shedding characteristics of Permanon (and as compared to CQuartz) as well as the application of the Platinum. Permanon Review - YouTube [U][B]Conclusions:[/B][/U] This can be used in many ways. It can be used for stand alone protection for the outside of a vehicle with a time frame of approx 6 months of protection. It can be used in difficult to access areas such as the barrels of wheels and the wheel wells if they're non porous. Permanon offers great protection for wheels due to its heat resistance. It gives the surface a smooth feel and a brilliant shine. The uses are really only limited by your imagination. It can be an excellent topper for any coating or protection that you may already have so you don't need to strip or polish your paint to apply it. It will act like an Aquapel type product on glass when driving down the road. The bottle will last a long time due to its concentration and mixing ratio.
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looks interesting, watched some of the other videos too that were on youtube...can't keep up with these new coatings!
this seems to be very easy to apply and you have to dilute the concentrated solution. 5% of permanon to 95% water.
Wish they made something smaller than 500ml .... would be interested in getting Plat but dont need 500ml if max dilution is 10%
Those who are interested, we will be setting up a Group Buy for Permanon Platinum through L2D. PM me here or there if you're interested. I don't have the pricing info yet; I should have in a day or two.
Group Buy info is set for those who are interested, here: Permanon L2D Group Buy Thread - Live2Detail
Thanks for the post. Quick question though how is this different than reload? Can this be applied over cquartz or opticoat? Any chance on getting the glass one added to the group buy?
Would it be possible to get smaller sized bottles like a sample? Let's say enough to do a car? I would be down if it's possible, I dont know how long a 1L would last me...!
Hamza, check with Bryan at Bryan'sBestWax. He is in your area and will most likely split some with you. I'm 4 hours away or I would. I am probably getting 2 liters. Irontree, It is different from Reload in how its made and applied. You can apply it the same way or blow it off without touching the paint. Reload does not have that option, and can be finicky on black paint if it's hot out. Join L2D and PM Steve (you will see him in the thread) and ask him what he can do for you. I just tried to keep it simple and limit it to two products. Sorry. And yes, no problem over CQ (did it on my Lincoln if you saw my video review) and no problem over OG/OC too. Yup, easier for me to organize just coming from one forum. Besides, any questions you may have, I will answer quickly over there. Why don't you see if there's someone in your area with which you could split a 500 ml size??
You get 20 liters(~22 quarts or 704 fl oz)) of the solution if used 5%. And I use between 5-10cl(1,69-3,38 fl oz) to coat my car, Audi A4 avant. So, you´ll get many coats - at least 200 - from 1 liter
just ordered mine and steve said that 1 liter would easily do 3-4 cars which includes every part not just paint. so a minimum of 80 and it sounded like a very low estimate to me.
I'm really looking forward to trying this stuff out. Wish I'd opted for the faster delivery. There are so many things it'll be good for besides the car. M/C helmet. Windows, counter tops, stainless steel appliances, shower tile, hardwood floor? Woo hoo! Can't wait!!!
