They have to do this......"We are not afraid of you America" American reply "That not withstanding.....you know how this is going to turn out right.....you follow....wait for it.....KABOOM!!. Btw....where do you think the F-16's came from???? taxpaying american citizens providing aid.......again to a corrupt nation playing both sides against the middle. :gasp:
they have to say it couse they cant afford to scramble f16 all the time? thats like half the budget for the year right there lol
with some new tech gear coming to light, sounds like they may have honestly had no idea what was going on, and if they did they probably had no clue where too really look. Looks like either the 160th SOAR or the the Navy is using some new sort of "stealth hawk" as people are calling it but due to the craft being grey it was most likely Navy, but JSOC probably has them in all their SO teams; so who really knows what Pakistan saw or knew, and really when it comes down too it it really does not matter. As for them making warnings etc, they are still a Muslim nation and they need to project they image they are against what is going on, but on the back side they take billions in aide, military supplies and political protection from us. Pakistan, is a huge buyer of arms from the US as well as a source of cheap labor for many manufacturing companies like Mattel, They are pissing and moaning over the Global hawk missions as well, IMO, again its to project to the Muslim world they are trying to stand up to the US, but really have done nothing about it other then some speeches. they know if they push it too hard the money and aide could go away..... Billy is right, they were TOLD that if Bin Laden was to be infact found in Pakistan, they would go and "get him" and Pakistan knew this from day one, whether or not they new actual details of the mission who knows, but its coming to public light more and more that they are "double dealing" as former Sec. Rice was saying.
Pakistan had to come out with that statement in the media to show everyone that they will not be invaded and give the illusion that they didn't know what was going on, behind the scenes I'm sure it's a very different story one that I'm sure nobody on this forum will ever know for certain. The whole puffed chest guns a blazing we're here thing scares the crap out of me. Do you really want to go up against a nation that also has nuclear capabilities and believes in reincarnation? I can just see it now... Super power - Oh ya, well we will (insert what you want for good enough cause) Pakistan - Ah f*@# it I want to come back as a duck Push the damn button I'm afraid nobody wins that one.
It's pretty clear the Pakistani's knew the whole time he was there. They just dont give a shit. Like the rest of the Middle East they are uncivilized animals and the last 10 years has shown that. If I wasn't for the US become an isolationistic country then I'd say nuke the dirtballs...but where would my political correctness be?
"The U.S. military operation that resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden is a major milestone in Obama's presidency, and now a majority of Americans approve of the job he is doing, and more than at any time since May 2010." mission success then Obama approval gains 6 Gallup points, post-bin Laden - The Oval: Tracking the Obama presidency
Of course there is a bump, but it also went down when the "Populace" learned he "Slept on the it" for 16 hours........had the American public found out we had a chance to serve justice and his handwringing let him get away(Almost happened in the Navy SEAL operation to rescue the "Maersk" captain where he delayed there as well for 22 hours and a man almost lost his life) but the SEALS did thier job again zinging Somali pirates, my opinion Obama would have been impeached.....really.
Its great that OBL is dead thats for sure. We have enough problems in the country right now. The politicians seems to have this buy now, let the grandkids pay it off. They keep spending and spending. They'll cut 30-40 billion from the 14 trillion dollar deficit. What a joke. This is pretty much the only thing Obama has done in his presidency that was good for the U.S.. Everything else is a big stinking joke with nothing but a gigantic price tag to be paid for by the people. Oblunder, we need a czar for the czars. We've gotten ourselves in a hole so deep, the light's getting dark. We need to stop all the unneccassary spending. That damn Democratic Senate and House really opened the flood gates. Obummer Care was the worst part of it. Totally aweful peice of legislation ever. Except for the pre-determined condition part, it was all a big pile of spit. Harry Reid- Had that program not been around, the tens of thousands of people who come there every year would not exist.” Do we really need to spend tax payers money on a damn Cowboy Poetry Festival?? Total disconnect from the American people. Remember all those seats you lost Democrats?? Wake up. I sure hope you see more RED in the future.
In my opinon...if Obama and his cronies can't take the blame for the way the economy is (i.e. blaming Bush for the way things are) then he surely can't take the credit for this feat. But of course the general public of America is way to dumb to see that.
I agree, he blames Bush at every turn, and maybe rightfully so on some occasions,but honestly he refuses to take responsibility for things that are happening right now. Blame and responsibility are two different things, he needs to assume both.. James Carney said the other day, basically the president knows gas prices are high, and its effecting families, but offered no idea of even if the president plans to dig into the issue. 300 fellow Americans were killed last week in tornadoes, many more are loosing their homes to flooding and I really have not heard a plan of action....... It did drop 10.00 per barrel yesterday, so we shall see if it keeps trending lower, people are driving less so that may be a factor, hard to say. I know he is super busy zipping around in Air Force One to important summits in South America etc, but really? It is high time the Government as a whole starts focusing on domestic issues, domestic programs; after all is it not OUR money they are spending? I guess that is what makes me made the most, the amount of money my wife and I pay in taxes and the amount I see being dished out to foreign aide, welfare, and other entitlement programs. BUT BUT BUT its ok, they will just keep printing money, and as Biden puts it "yes, we need to spend more money to stimulate the economy" (crock of shit if you ask me) It is time to scale back spending in all programs, and spend on tangible programs that creates jobs, improves our infer-structure, etc. etc instead of trying to quell every riot and unstable region in the world. Yes, we are a super power and with that comes great responsibility to the rest of the world, I get that, but we need to pick and choose our battles. Its like someone who makes 8.00 an hour but lives at home sponging off mommy and daddy but drives a BMW m3, how sustainable is it and how logical is it........... (no offense to those who do that)
As much as I was a bit against what you were saying at first Bob, I understand where you are coming from now. Most people don't know what's happening in the background and they're only source of news is trash-talking CNN and others. Also, as a canadian, i'm very proud that he was caught and justice was served to our american brothers/sisters but when everyone was chanting and being very happy near the white house, it reminded me of some middle-east people being happy when the 2 planes crashed in the WTC. I'll leave it at that. I'll say it again, it was a nice day for the people in the intelligence community.
It is common for people to ignore the flaws of ones they like and only speak negatively of one the ones dislike, It is human nature.
Only the people celebrating at the White House were not doing it out of jealousy, I am not going to say our military has never killed anyone wrongly(Vietnam/other skirmishes) but for the most part no one can say America targets non-combatent people on purpose. It is funny how moderate Muslim people never speak out against "Radical Muslim Ideaology"?, people (Muslim nations) cheered like the superbowl/world series/world cup on 9/11/2001 and there was a plethora of newscasts to prove it. As a whole you would find it hard to Americans rejoicing in the slaughter of anyone(Americans do get wrapped up in thier lives sometimes myself included) but do not find happiness in others suffering, because if we do why is it that the amount of charity is the highest of any country? I Mean in reality people here do not have to give a "Red cent" to help anyone. Another example, take the Pearl Harbor attack which targeted MILITARY person(s) and the world was agast in thier reaction........but we celebrate the killing of a man who everyone KNOWS is evil(Just because you have a relegious bent means nothing ie: David Koresh in Waco and Jim Jones who were CHRISTIAN based and not muslim btw) and Americans celebrate the promise kept by George Bush 2 that America would serve justice and we did. I am at a loss on how this event is viewed the way it is by people in other countries(Can understand I am way BIAS on this though)as you have clear and present danger demonstrated that anyone with eyes and ears plus of course common sense could see "What is what". Osama Bin Laden was the leader and figurehead for this latest faction of evil, yes someone will come after him to plan things do us all in(Btw all of you that are not in America do you not have your lives affected as well........fly on plane lately?) as muslims want to take over EVERYTHING which includes all who do not convert and they make no effort to hide this fact at all. People who eschew violence for any reason are always the folks who are taken out first(Easy targets) unfortunately we live in a world where things happen, and if you are not ready you will get hammered(Warriors pray for peace, but prepare for war).
"It is funny how moderate Muslim people never speak out against "Radical Muslim Ideaology"?, people (Muslim nations) cheered like the superbowl/world series/world cup on 9/11/2001 and there was a plethora of newscasts to prove it." this.....
"people (Muslim nations) cheered like the superbowl/world series/world cup on 9/11/2001" You forgot the Stanley Cup, obviously the most sought after trophy in professional sports! And yes, I AM CANADIAN!
All I have to say is this thread is becoming very offensive to Muslims... I see a lot of negativity towards them, and the radical people in some areas might have cheered, but as a whole they did not. They are normal people. Their scripture is written similarly, and can be interpreted in different ways (like any religion), it does not tell them to be extremist or to terrorize others. I have Muslim friends and they and their families are no different. I for one don't judge others.
I can understand how you feel, lumping in the bad apples in the bushel thing.......however I do not know of any American Bapists going to the middle east and killing/and or blowing up people. As for cheering, news crews did not film "Just the bad muslims" and you might want to log onto "Al jazzera" sometime and watch..........for hours not minutes and tell me what you think, as these guys would kill any westerner Canadian or otherwise. I try and judge people on a case by case basis.........but no other group causes the world so much trouble and that is a fact.
I try and judge people on a case by case basis.........but no other group causes the world so much trouble and that is a fact. ^^ like he said and i am the same way and i couldent agree more. these people dont like are way of life, thats why they attack us and have tried to attack us again mutiple times since 9/11