Menz label/name/scale

Discussion in 'Compounds, Polishes, Paint Cleaners, and Glazes' started by Misha, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    most of menzerna bottle scales are confusing
    can you put number scale on bottles and maybe consistent numbers of product and
    look at meguiars bottles from mirror glaze line

    i know you have pdf with number of each polish but it would be nice to have it on bottle.

    yes most of us know what cut each polish has and stuff but still
     
  2. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Which PDF would you be talking about. I would like to have a copy of it to refer to.

    I agree it would be nice to see a standard naming or product numbering. Easier for newer people to figure out what to use when.
     
  3. billyblooshoes

    billyblooshoes DB Forum Supporter

    Are you confused about the cut level scale that is on the bottles?
     
  4. pektel

    pektel DB Forum Supporter

  5. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    im not confused anymore since i know whats what but to start it was little confusing and their scale thing is not realy good. number of cut and gloss level instead of that would have been better

    liquid chart
    http://www.menzernausa.com/Charts/LiquidChart.tiff
     
  6. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Ohhh yeah I have seen that one. It can be confusing for noobs with the whole ceramic vs. regular polishes.
     
  7. Jedidiah

    Jedidiah Guest

    oh snap look at that TIFF..

    Phil... this would be nice to have on your site.

    or even the one off AG.net
     
  8. kustomizingkid

    kustomizingkid Nuba Guru

    I find the Menzerna labeling and cut scale to be very very poor... good thing the polishes are outstanding!
     
  9. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    i guess they cut funding on design and put all money into R&D which is good thing.

    i like Poorboys label. SSR 1, 2.5 and so on. plain and simple lol
     
  10. kustomizingkid

    kustomizingkid Nuba Guru

    I would say of all the polishes I own the M105 and M205 are the easiest to read and understand... very very simple....
     
  11. Aesop

    Aesop Jedi Nuba

    Here guys, this is what I use. Someone was nice enough to put this together and share it.

    Menzerna Hard Paint Guide
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    Menzerna Medium Paint Guide
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    Menzerna Soft Paint Guide
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    Each polish in order by aggressiveness


    Power Gloss
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    SIP
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    IP
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    106FFa
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    85RD
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  12. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Those are pretty much what I have used as well, I have those charts saved and PDFed on my HD for quick access.
     
  13. Peugeot

    Peugeot Birth of a Detailer

    Soooooo, I'm a little slow I think....

    What's with the different bars within each product?

    Let's take the last one 85RD. You have silver, green and black. Black... Could they be someone's pad lineup?
     
  14. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    what looks like silver is actually suppose to be white...it is LC pad line up. Shows you the initial cut and what it finishes at. Pretty much tells you how much cut each pad will have for a given product and clear hardness.
     
  15. Jescar

    Jescar Guest

    I understand that there has been some confusion on the numbers, product names, cut level, etc and we have been addressing this. We recently updated our product summary chart on the website:

    http://www.menzernausa.com/Charts/Liquid Summary3.15.10.tiff

    Our distributors have also done an excellent job of creating their charts with our input.

    If there are any suggestions for what you would like to see in the way of technical information, please let me know and we will include it on the website.

    Jeff
     
  16. piginapoke

    piginapoke Obsessive Detailer

    Those charts above are the most usefull charts I have ever seen, every manufacturer should do this!
     
  17. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    after 1-2 years of using menzerna i know cut and gloss scale but if you give it to somebody they dont know what is what. instead of putting that slide scale on bottle why not just put numbers from the chart? is it that difficult?
     
  18. kdude

    kdude Jedi Nuba

    I agree that the Menz labeling is piss poor... I guess the take it for granted that anyone using there products is a seasoned German detailer who knows there product line inside out... for a noob like me it was really confusing until i too figured out what's what ...
     
  19. porta

    porta Jedi Nuba

    Menzerna have a scale from 1-10 regarding the gloss and cut on products from 2011.
     
  20. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    Menzerna GMBH EU Abrasive Levels and Reference Numbers

    FG S500 –Fast Gloss, Cut 9/10: Gloss x /10
    PG 1000 – Power Gloss, Cut 8/10: Gloss x /10
    IP 2000 – Intensive Polish, Cut 7/10: Gloss x /10
    PF 2500 – Power Finish, Cut 5/10: Gloss x /10
    PF 5000 - Power Finish, Cut x/10: Gloss x /10
    FF 3000 – Final Finish, Cut 4/10: Gloss x /10
    SF 4000 – Super Finish, Cut 2/10: Gloss x /10

    Labelling by grit number seems to make sense to me, I don't know it MenzernaUS will follow suite

     

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