AIO products

Can you get dodo juice need for speed over your side of the pond?
Gives a nice glossy finish, has micro abrasives to brunish and carnauba content thrown in for protection.
Lovely stuff to work with.

 

+1. recently started playing with Dodo NFS and it's totally under rated. Considering the look it gives off by itself makes it so worth the price.

 

I love AIO's. In fact I'm doing a head to head test on another board.

ColorX is a fantastic AIO for OTC, you won't be able to beat its chemical cleaning ability with any other OTC stuff. DG501 is great if you need a bit of abrasive bite and longer durability than ColorX. If the paint is trashed, go with ColorX, otherwise go with DG501. Unless you are claying, I wouldn't even mess with stuff like SRP or Poliseal, they aren't nearly strong enough. And if you were claying, I'd go DG101 then. If you can wait, KAIO all the way, still the strongest AIO there is.

 

Yakky,, I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you.

 

Unfortunately I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with whatever it was you disagreed with me on.

That said, I'm big on AIO's with strong chemical cleaners. I do not and will not use an AIO with hopes of correcting swirls. I'd rather get the paint clean and oxidation/contamination free than hope a very compromised product to begin with, is going to do some sort of swirl correction.

 

Klasse is only chemical cleaners, whereas Poli-Seal has real abrasives in it. No way in hell Klasse cleans paint better than Poli-Seal.

 

DG501 does not contain abrasives either AFAIK.

 

Perhaps you aren't up on your terminology, but paint cleaning is different than polishing. KAIO has the strongest chemical cleaners of any readily available AIO. It removes road film, oxidation and embedded contaminants much better than Poli-seal. Poli-seal does do a much better job at polishing paint as it does have abrasives.

I did a basic test here:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-de...how-do-they-stack-up-paint-cleaning-dept.html

 

Can you cite your source of this info? I hope its not one of the contradiction brothers, William or Jerry. It feels abrasive, acts abrasive and the description on their web site is the only one that mentions actual polish:

DG501: "Formulated to clean, polish and protect fiberglass, metal and painted surfaces."

All the other products may contain polish in the name, 501 is the only one to claim polish in the description.

 

Thanks but I'll stick to my preferences. KAIO certainly does deserve it's spot on my shelf though.

 

Yakky and Emile, are we talking about using KAIO and PS by hand or by machine? I think that could be a big difference in the results you guys are getting. By hand, I'd think the edge in cleaning would have to go to KAIO but by machine, PS should clean better since it's also removing some paint.

You did machine tests with ZAIO and 501. Do you have a panel left that you could test KAIO and PS side by side similarly?

 

Mike, I don't find much difference in cleaning ability by machine vs by hand other than speed. As mentioned I'm trying to remove contaminants, not paint. If I wanted to get smooth paint fast, I'd go for a heavy hitter like 105. In my experiment above, you can see how poorly the 3M FP did. Abrasives are not good cleaners.

While I don't have any more dirty panels on that car, I can probably find another test bed. Based upon prior experience I can guarantee 2 minutes on a door panel with KAIO by hand will yield paint that is smoother than 2 minutes on a door panel with a strong abrasive by machine. One panel will obviously have more clear left on it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not touting the use of a paint cleaner for correction, not at all. If you have swirls and contaminants, Poli-seal is a great choice. I'm a huge fan of its looks. However as shown above, even after claying, there is a ton of crap on top of good paint, and the most efficient way to remove that is a strong paint cleaning AIO. I'm all about using the least aggressive mean possible to get to the desired results.

 

Just got an answer back from DG:

"Thanks for the great comments! DG501 has the most functional abrasive; next would be DG105, and the least DG101."

 

Sal, I like FK215 also. However, I just had a surprisng result with it. I just did a white Ford Expedition with M105 and LC flat orange pads on PC and it looked really good. And then I followed up with FK215 with LC flat white pads on a PC hoping that would be sufficient as a quick 2nd polishing step and get some deeper cleaning of the white paint. I went over the whole truck with the FK215 before removing.

The result. The finish was much better with just the M105 polishing step. I worked the FK215 pretty good but it left hazing. Like it didn't break down enough. And this was visible on solid white paint. Switched to Sonus white pad, Uber blue, PAC VC german green pads and got the same result. I tried playing with my work times but polishing for less time/passes resulting in the hazing a bit more. So that's why I think that the abrasives were not breaking down.

I had only used FK215 as an 1-stepper prior to that and never noticed it left hazing. I guess M105 actually finishes better than an AIO.