LSP Poll

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by Cooter, Jul 13, 2009.

  1. Cooter

    Cooter Guest

    I was getting ready for work and on my computer desk is a jar of Saphir, Concorso, SN and RG55. It got me wondering how many of you guys out there are strictly nuba, sealant or both?

    What would you list yourself as?

    Strictly nuba?
    Strictly sealant?
    Half n half or near about it?
    Topping sealants with nuba?
    Just what ever you're feeling like?
    Kind of client you have?

    Whats your take on the subject??

    Heath:popcorn:
     
  2. J BELL

    J BELL Nuba Guru

    Great post Heath. I feel I am always a top a sealant with a nuba kind of guy. I like the thought of protection that is very durable topped with a more beauty wax. Once i feel the look starts to slip, i can top it back up or do it all over again and never feel that the paint is unprotected, like insurance if you will.
     
  3. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    Sometimes I top sealants with nuba.
    Sometimes I just use nuba.

    I do what I am in the mood for. On a clients car, price affects what I use as lsp. Unless of course its a friend of some kind.

    I just did my suv about 2 weeks ago and just did nuba. 2 coats.
     
  4. skurzhun

    skurzhun Birth of a Detailer

    I like to top sealants with nuba. When working on others cars I'll do either or due to time constraints, but that won't be an issue anymore as I picked up some faster curing sealant.
     
  5. Spyral

    Spyral DB Forum Supporter

    I am a "top a sealant with a nuba" kind of guy. To me, the detail is not done until I am topping the nuba with Red Mist. I feel cheated if I don't get to apply a nuba after a detail, it's like the money shot to me..lol
     
  6. SpecC

    SpecC Wax on..Wax off

    i usually top off all my sealants with nuba too

    i don't think i've ever done it without a sealant since i've started detailing
     
  7. D&D Auto Detailing

    D&D Auto Detailing DB Forum Supporter

    Pretty much only sealants on customers cars. Dont like topping sealants with any wax.
     
  8. sal329

    sal329 Nuba Guru

    I use mostly sealants, if customer wants a carnauba by itself I will do that or I will top if they like that as well
     
  9. DLR Detailing

    DLR Detailing Jedi Nuba

    Mostly sealants for me as well. About the only carnauba I use is OCW - if you want to count that as a nuba. :shead:

    I just disqualified it, from the OPT site...
    OCW - A combination of high-grade Carnauba wax, sealant polymers and UV inhibitors forms a protective layer
     
  10. detaildoc

    detaildoc Guest

    I always top all sealants with a nuba; however, the new exception to that rule is when using the Gloss-It Finish/Concorso combo, this stuff looks amazing on its own.
     
  11. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    I like to top sealants with a nuba to help protect from bird bombs and such. If I know I will be able to up keep the washing then I will layer a few coats of nuba.
     
  12. akimel

    akimel Birth of a Detailer

    Carnauba on my black S2000; sealant on my wife's glacier blue CR-V.

    I think it makes a difference whether one is a professional or just a private enthusiast. I think I understand the practice of topping a sealant with a carnauba, if one is a professional: the professional hopes to give to the customer his money's worth, i.e., both durability and a carnauba look. It's a way of eating one's cake and having it, too. But I anticipate waxing my S2000 every four to six weeks during the non-winter months, so I see no need to apply a sealant at all. I prefer, however, to wax/seal my wife's car less frequently--hence the choice of a synthetic sealant. If she wants a nuba look ... well ... she can always wax the car herself. :)
     
  13. JLs Detailing

    JLs Detailing DB Pro Supporter

    I'm a sealant topped with nuba guy. If not topping I go just sealant (which happens for a lot of clients cars). Never been much on using a nuba by itself.
     
  14. D&D Auto Detailing

    D&D Auto Detailing DB Forum Supporter

    99.9% of clients will not notice a difference. Id be willing to bet a good percentage of detailers will not notice a difference either. There are also some downfalls to topping sealants with nubas.
     
  15. dsms

    dsms DB Forum Supporter

    I think some detailers buy an array of fine waxes and sealants for THEMSELVES and RATIONALIZE their purchases by saying its for customers benefit, when in reality only a trained eye "may" be able to tell the difference between LSP products.

    As far as customers go, IMHO if you corrected a black car properly you should be able to give it back to the customer with no LSP and they should still be happy.. the LSP just adds a bit of wow factor and of course the protection.
     
  16. fricker66

    fricker66 Birth of a Detailer

    Both here as well. Enjoying JetSeal 109 with Natty's Blue as the topper.
     
  17. krshultz

    krshultz Nuba Guru

    I don't have a predictable pattern. :sorry:

    On my own two vehicles, it's whatever my latest "shiny new thing" is. Right now, it's Auto Balm. It looks great, and it lasts forever.

    For a customer car? Depends on the car, how it's used, and what the customer wants. Last Saturday I worked on a Mitsubishi Evolution IX that lives mostly in the garage. I bought Jetseal, AJT, RBOE, and Auto Balm with me. The owner said "I'm a traditionalist - I'll take the carnauba." And as ever, it looked dynamite with RBOE.

    If it's an owner who I suspect doesn't take great care of their vehicle, I lean towards Auto Balm or AJT, for durability sake. And certainly Auto Balm if I'm after some filling. For daily drivers that customers want to really pop (and they're willing to pay for that), either Jetseal or AJT, topped by RBOE.

    So...it varies quite a lot for me. Now that I've got a sample of Wet Obsession from Roger, I'm tempted to strip the S2000 and try it on that. Even though Auto Balm is still going strong and looking great. I'm :crasy:
     
  18. Nica

    Nica Banned

    Hands down I'm all Carnauba.

    I let vehicle owners choose either Carnauba or sealant and it comes down to what the vehicle is used for. For every day drivers it's about durability but for those garage queens it's all about the Carnauba glow. Besides I only have three sealants and that's enough for me, but that's just me :shrug:

    For my own personal vehicles, it's all Carnuaba :woo:
     
  19. 911Fanatic

    911Fanatic DB Pro Supporter

    Lets use the word "masking" from now on shall we? Remember what happened last time! As for me, most clients cars get two coats of the appropriate sealant. I will play with nubas on my own cars but very seldom on clients unless its getting Colli 476 for winter. If its a dark colourit gets AB.
     
  20. Duratys

    Duratys Welcome to Detailing

    I prefer sealants but since the purchase of RBOE I may have aquired a taste for nubas.
     

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