Bilt Hamber Auto Balm announcement!

After reading about this product for a good couple of months, and all the hype surrounding it I wanted to pick it up. I also read about it's "amazing filling abilities". It wasn't just one person saying it, but on both this forum, and detailing world I read about how great it was because it could fill rivers, and last months, and look great to boot! When I got it, I was a little bit shocked at the LACK of filling abilities. So what did I do? Called Ken of course :shrug:. We talked about it for a while and he explained to me that it will NOT fill scratches, RIDS, or the like. But it WILL fill MINOR wash marring, and microfiber marring. Again, this product is a sealant, NOT a glaze.

Also, as I was talking to Ken this morning, he tells me how he even wrote a little bit about it in the product description under "Kens Note". I'm not calling everyone out who thought it filled--hell I did and proclaimed it did before I tried it based on the reviews I was reading on multiple forums. But I was wrong--and it should be worth noting for the record, it won't fill like I've personally read it will.



Again, no hard feelings to anyone who may have proclaimed of how much it filled, I would just like to point out to the new users of BHAB that it's not going to fill RIDS, scratches, wool pad marring, etc.

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Aaron

 

I want to add it to my collection, too many other things to pay for at the moment tho

 

Aaron..I don't know about that. Bilt Hamber pays extra $$ to fly the product to the US to go AROUND the Grand Canyon in the event of a crash...they don't want to be responsible for filling it..............

 

:applause2:

 

Thanks for the post. I was going to buy it based on reading how much it fills.

It saws me money and helps me to avoid being disappointed.

I guess its back to using glazes.

 

It's a great wax for what it is--I use it more now than any other wax in my collection. The shine/glow is gives off on dark cars is astounding.

 

Thanks. I was hoping it was a glaze+wax all in one.
Temper my expectations.

 

Hey Aaron - PM me if there's a post I've made where I came across as if I were saying AB filled RIDS and severe defects. I know I've been one of its advocates. I don't remember saying any such thing, certainly not on purpose. If there are posts from me that are somehow misleading, I'd like to know about them, so I can go back and make some edits and/or corrections.

 

I have been told that it's all in technique of how you apply it ... I have yet to try to use AB to fill but here is a link that clearly shows it does fill

When Mr Bilt & Mr Hamber met Mr Rolls & Mr Royce... - Detailing World

 

damn. worked nice on that Rolls. Awesome ornament on that car as well.

 

Dude if you thought it would fill scratches and RIDS there is nothing that will do that, not even glazes. Heck I've even used the infamous "Product X" that you couldn't buy anymore that everyone claims fills better than anything but it won't fill scratches and RIDS. When most guys on HERE tell you it fills they mean that it hides the light surface marring you see on a lot of cars. Also when it fills it's not like it makes things disappear. All any product with filling abilities does is round the edges of the marring so that the light doesn't hit it so sharply anymore giving the illusion that it has diminished them. I think that the folks on here making the filling claims were under the impression that everyone knew that they were only talking about surface marring.

 

Nah I don't think it was really anyone in general Karl. I know you've praised about the masking abilities, but I don't see you being the only person doing so. If I believed everything everyone said about products, I would be $20k+ in debt. So I pick and choose based on numerous reviews. This wasn't targeted at you, or anyone. Just an announcement that I think some of us, including me, were a little mislead by exactly HOW MUCH it filled.

I dunno. I'm sure it is all in the technique, but I haven't gotten it to fill much of anything, and I know a few others who haven't as well. But I agree--whatever he did to that Rolls sure did work :shrug:

 

I'm not trying to attack you or anyone else, JL. :sorry:

I'm simply stating from the reactions of a few people (one in this thread) and another on another forum, there was a misunderstanding on what "filling" was as you stated. I didn't know WHAT to expect from the product, except that it "filled". I can see how it may fill wash marring, but that's it. It was supposed to be a friendly PSA to future BHAB owners.. not to attack anyone. Again, :sorry:

 

Never took it as a personal attack bro I guess I was just surprised that there was such a wide disparity in what one thinks is filling ability.

 

This product is one of the great detailing mysteries. :lol:

 

Now I don't have a very good eye at spotting filling capabilities, but I here's this post from Team of Civinfo - Honda Civic Forum.

Original post

 

I think the question here is not wether it fills, as it clearly does, but rather HOW MUCH it fills. From the pics in the RRoyce write up, its evident that the damage is no worse than marring inflicted by improper wash technique. Auto Balm will take care of that easily. The RRover I posted had the same type of damage plus marring from the clay. The issue is wether or not not it will fill RDS, which it most certainly will not. I sure hope this clears things up for everyone. :thumb:

 

thanks for this little write up. ken expressed the same to me on the phone yesterday, but regardless, i stil cant wait to try it out when it gets here. i bought it for its durability and how it looks on black and metallic cars. the filling capabilities are a plus, but not my main concern.

 

Interesting thread...

So I feel stupid, what does RDIS stand for?

 

RIDS. random isolated deep scratches. some people just call them RDS for random deep scratches.