Please help - looking for wax

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by Hovy, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. Hovy

    Hovy Two Bucket System Washer

    Hi guys,

    I've never "detailed" any of my cars. Just wash with 2BM, rinsed and dried. I always felt the contaminations on paint but never knew what it was until I saw Paul Dalton's video on detailing on Youtube then started searching online and joined detailing forums. I am basically a beginner. I am now acquainted with the proper way of taking care of a car: clay, polish, clean, LSP and all related tools and equipments...

    I am looking for a overall "best" wax that fits the following criteria:

    - ease of use (on/off)
    - durability
    - best looking results (depth, gloss, mirror, not too familiar how each differ)

    I was thinking Z*mol Vintage but lots of people say it's not any better than say a 100$ (or less) wax. Considering CG's 5050 and some SVs as well.

    Finally, is a wax dependent on the paint's color?

    Thanks ahead of time! :thumb:
     
  2. slanguage

    slanguage OD On Detailing

    Well, wax is almost a personal opinion. Some people are going to say this wax is better than that one, while the next guy is not a fan of that one.

    A few I can reccomend to you would be Wet Osession, Zymol Glasur, Swissvax Saphir, 1Z Glanzwax, Collinite 845. These are of course some of my favorites, but all do well. Collinite waxes peform pretty well all around and have faired pretty well against the more "boutique" type waxes.

    A few waxes are "developed" towards types of colors, like warm or light colored paints. But most waxes will work on any color.

    This is of course just my :2cents: and some people might not agree with me, but I hope it helps you.
     
  3. Hovy

    Hovy Two Bucket System Washer

    Yes, I hear/read this a lot: that a wax is a personal thing. I was hoping to see if there is something out there that would fulfill the durability (looking for a good month or two), ease of application and best look/results I am looking for.

    I don't wish to buy all the waxes out there and try them one by one until I find the right one. Although, I think this is the only way for me to find it. I am not a pro detailer, just the type of guy that spends couple hours on a Sunday (once a month) and take care of his car.

    Thanks for your help!
     
  4. 911Fanatic

    911Fanatic DB Pro Supporter

    I am looking for a overall "best" wax that fits the following criteria:

    - ease of use (on/off)
    - durability
    - best looking results (depth, gloss, mirror, not too familiar how each differ)

    There is no BEST wax, there is only perception. For durability, you could try Collinite, Bilt Hamber Auto Balm or a variety of sealants that are available. My advice would be a sealant for durability topped with a wax. What colour is your car?

    I was thinking Z*mol Vintage but lots of people say it's not any better than say a 100$ (or less) wax. Considering CG's 5050 and some SVs as well.

    I have Vintage and can tell you that on a freshly polished hood in a side by side comparison with Supernatural, it was no contest. Not even close. And I am about as unbiased as someone can get. The trick to a perfect finish lies in the polishing, not in the LSP. I'm sure concours winning cars could win with nothing more than Turtle Wax as their LSP. I would suggest getting a polisher, some pads and get at it. Its not rocket science, just time consuming.


    Finally, is a wax dependent on the paint's color?

    No
     
  5. Hovy

    Hovy Two Bucket System Washer

    I have a silver metallic audi R8 and basalt black cayenne. Both have been professionally "paint restorated" by

    - removing oxidation and swirl marks
    - polishing to bring depth and clarity to the paint
    - final polishing for shine enhancement

    I am looking for something to keep the maintenance of the paints.

    ps: How often is polishing required?

    ps2: In your comparison between Z Vintage and Supernatural, do you mean that Vintage is no contest? Meaning it's that good?

    Thanks!
     
  6. Dave KG

    Dave KG Jedi Nuba

    I dont think the high end waxes offer anything tenable over much cheaper alternatives... I have run Royale on my Volvo, and it was no better for me than Glasur. They key to the looks is in the prep, and the smoke and mirrors of the wax industry are what delivers the "expensive is better" and "one wax for one colour" and "one wax for one type of car" etc sentiments...

    Get yourself a good wax that you enjoy using to keep your finish protected - that is the key. If you're like me, you'll like applying a layer of wax on a lazy Sunday afternoon so to that end, get yourself a product that you enjoy applying. If its easy on and off, decent durability you are looking for, you could do a lot worse than Victoria Concours wax. Good value, lovely to use, adds to the look anything a more expensive wax will and beads water nicely too.

    If you dont mind learning about application, then a product worth looking at us Rubbishboys Original Edition - now this is not "easy" to use like the on/off products of today... but its not difficult either. You need to learn how to use it, and you need to invest the time in every application of it but its so rewarding and the wax feels made for you. In an industry where all that separated products is durability, smell and a lot of marketing bumff, this wax is refreshingly different - beads well, oil heavy to add a little wettness (by little, I mean little, but its the same with all waxes), decently durable, and a made for you feel that is unmatched by other LSPs. Worth a look :)
     
  7. Darkstar752

    Darkstar752 Horizon Detailing

    +1 on Rubbish Boys Original Edition.
     
  8. EisenHulk

    EisenHulk Birth of a Detailer

    Megs #16 FTW.
     
  9. JLs Detailing

    JLs Detailing DB Pro Supporter

    I agree that a perfectly polished finish doesn't really matter what wax you use. However I do feel and have seen that with less than perfectly finished paint that the more expensive waxes do make a difference. That being said I would reccommend Rubbish Boys OE if you don't mind a little extra work or Raceglaze 55 if you want easy and great looking.
     

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